印度有一天會變得跟中國一樣繁榮嗎？印度網友：不可能了

Can India become a prosperous(like China, not the US) nation ever?

印度可以成為像中國一樣的繁榮國家嗎？

we won"t compromise liberty to reduce poverty

we won"t sell our land for a construction project

we can"t follow the law because of our poor upbringing

we are apathetic to our people

we lack honesty and sincerity in executing our voting rights

All day we dream of becoming a super power in 2050. Most countries who are developed now once used to be ruled by a dictatorship(Singapore, most of Europe, Japan, Russia, etc.).

Does anyone have any idea how our country will progress ?

我們不會為了減少貧困而放棄自由；我們不會為了工程建設而出賣土地；

我們不能遵守法律，因為我們的教育不好；我們對人民漠不關心。

我們在行駛投票權上缺乏誠信和誠意。

我們每天做著2050年成為發達國家的夢。大多數發達國家都曾被獨裁過（新加坡、歐洲、日本、俄羅斯等等。）

breakupnoob 22 points 19 days ago

India needs a scientific revolution. More agencies like ISRO, that not only make our whole country proud but has also become self sustaining and profitable.

印度需要一場科技革命，更多像印度空間組織這樣的機構，這不止能讓我們對整個國家都感到自豪，更能讓我們變得自立自強。

yantrik 28 points 19 days ago

Problem of India is its people for whom religion, region or caste matter more then human values. We will always be 3rd world country its just that we will be more polluted, more populated and more corrupt.

印度的問題是，對人們來說，宗教信仰、宗教或種姓問題比人的價值更重要。我們將永遠是第三世界國家，我們會更多污染、更多人口、更腐=敗。

lunaroyster 27 points 19 days ago

we won"t compromise liberty to reduce poverty

What sort of liberty compromise are you talking about?

我們不能為了減少貧困而放棄自=由。

你在說什麼妥協=自由？

silent_guy1Bihar 38 points 19 days ago

We have already compromised liberty but have not gotten anything in return.

我們已經損失了自由，但沒得到任何回報。

iVarun 11 points 19 days ago

Stuff like NIMBY specifically.

But the quote is incorrect already.

We already make comprises on Liberty. Liberty exists on a spectrum, there is no such thing as Absolute Liberty. India lacks many liberties which even a place like China had, things like what you can wear, freedom and opportunities for jobs, social-economic upliftment, etc. These are also Liberties.

Chinese have a different make up of Liberties from that spectrum. They lack Political liberties. Though thier make up is changing from what it used to be even 20 years ago.

No one has Absolute Liberty and never will as long as we are the same species. It"s an illogical premise.

Liberty did nothing for the 500 MILLION Indians (200 Million of whom were children) who died in abject poverty from 1950-2005 across multiple generations.

Poverty alleviation has higher hierarchy than the need/compulsion to have a slightly wider swath of some sections of Liberty spectrum at a particular stage of development.

There is NOTHING worse than Poverty. NOTHING.

像專門反對一樣，雖然那話也不正確。我們現在已經放棄自由了。自由只是一小範圍的自由，沒有絕對的自由。印度甚至和中國一樣缺乏許多自由。比如你能穿什麼、工作的自由和機會、社會經濟的提升等等，這些也是自由。

中國某種程度上也有不同的自由。他們缺乏政治自由，雖然和20年相比已經有了改變。

沒人會有絕對自由，只要我們是同一物種就絕不會有絕對自由。這是符合邏輯的前提。

自由對於在1950~2005年中死於赤貧的5億人（包括2億兒童）來說沒什麼卵用。

發展到一定階段後，相對需要或被迫擁有更寬泛的自由而言，消除貧困是更高層次。沒什麼比赤貧更糟糕了。

tyronequan 2 points 16 days ago

Like Abdul Kalam said "India"s biggest enemy is poverty

就像阿卜杜勒·卡拉姆所說的：印度最大的敵人是貧窮。

whoawhoawhoayou 7 points 19 days ago

We will progress very slowly. It might take another 100 years for us to be developed on the infrastructure end like China or the US. Till then, we simply keep pushing for a positive change.

我們會發展得非常緩慢，美國和中國等基礎建設非常完善，趕上這樣的可能要花100年。在此之前，我們僅能朝著積極的改變奮鬥。

loscrimmage 22 points 19 days ago

the problem with India is two fold:

old, inflexible British style democracy

old, inflexible Soviet style government owned large enterprises

印度的問題有兩方面：古老呆板的英式民主；陳舊僵化的擁有大型企業的蘇派政府。

Randiathrowaway17Uttarakhand 35 points 19 days ago

British style democracy

Japan, Israel, Australia and many other prosperous countries have modeled their system after the British. Your excuse is an old favourite, but it"s a cop-out.

英式民主？日本、以色列、澳大利亞等多數其他繁榮的國家都仿英制，你的借口挺受歡迎的，但這是逃避。

DamnedProphecy 3 points 19 days ago

You said ever? Yes.

Compare India in 1947 to India today. Democracy has its own perils and we have a huge population but we will definitely become a superpower in lesser time than what U.S. took after independence.

你說永遠？是吧。1947年的印度和今日印度相比，民主有其自身的風險，我們有龐大的人口，但我們最終會成為超級大國，用比美國從獨立後（到成為大國）所花的時間更短。

nakedwires 2 points 19 days ago

No.

不能。

guru_modicumNorth America 2 points 18 days ago

how our country will progress ?

Reduce population by 40% for starter, now.

如何讓我們國家發展？現在，先減少40%的人口。

mangomafia 1 point 19 days ago

Even assuming there"s enough money, since it"s all artificially created anyway, there isn"t enough raw material in the world for India to build as many bridges and roads and cars as China has.

China has sewn up mining contracts in Australia, Africa and South America. Unless India wants to do deep sea or Antarctic mining (prohibitively expensive), there"s nowhere to go.

即使假設有足夠的資金，因為一切都是人工製造的，世上也沒有足夠的原材料，能建設如中國一樣的橋樑、道路和汽車。

中國已經和澳大利亞、非洲、南美洲簽訂了採礦合同。除非印度想在深海或南極採礦（價格死貴），否則別無去處。

ggoyal 1 point 18 days ago

China crossed UK GDP in 2007, we might do it in 2017. So we are not that behind

2007年時中國的GDP超過了英國；2017時我們也可能做到這點。所以我們並沒有很落後。

shyskymonkey 2 points 19 days ago

True democracy has helped and will continue to help us. About the superpower part i have other thoughts. The US became a superpower under very specific circumstances, as did the Soviets. I don"t think there will is going to be a bipolar balance in the foreseeable future, but yeah we will be much better off than where we are now, able to rival other great powers like China/United states at that the time.

真正的民主已經幫助了我們並將繼續幫助我們。我對超級大國有其他看法。美國在非常特定的情況下成為了超級大國，蘇聯也是如此。我不認為在可預見的未來中會出現兩極平衡，但我們會比現在好很多，能夠與中國或美國這樣的大國競爭。

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