用相機在廢墟里尋找一些奇遇| 圖蟲劇場vol.12

Chris Luckhardt 一位加拿大的冒險攝影師，以紀錄世界各地被遺棄的地方和空地而聞名。

我們採訪了他，問了一些他在拍照過程中的奇遇。

采寫 / 熊超、路舒

受訪 / @ChrisLuckhardt

編輯 / 牙刷味

1. 你最為人熟知的是你拍攝的城市廢墟的系列影像，為什麼把拍攝城市的廢墟作為探索城市的主要部分？

廢墟通常跟人口的興衰緊密聯合。底特律可能是這種景觀中最有名的一個例子。自從1950年開始，底特律流失了60%的人口，從一個強大的經濟集團變得像是一個災難遊戲現場，它衰落是十分有名的。

即使如此，在這個世界上許多的景觀和鄉村，我見證過更大的衰落。我十分幸運能去十幾個國家（包括幾乎美國所有的州和加拿大所有的省），一個共同的趨勢是，這個世界在不斷地城市化。鄉村人口正在減少，那裡曾經充滿著繁榮的社區，活躍的建築物，現在只留下空蕩、廢棄的農田、農舍，就像一座小小的鬼城。

Abandoned locations are most often associated with the rise and fall of populations. Detroit is perhaps the most famous example of this scenario. Since 1950, the city has lost more than 60% of its population; its fall from being an economic powerhouse to looking more like an apocalyptic video game is legendary.

That said, I』ve witnessed a more significant decline in rural living and landscapes around the world. I』ve been fortunate to explore more than a dozen countries (including almost every American state and Canadian province), and a unifying trend is the world』s continuing urbanization. Rural populations are declining which is leaving behind farms, farmhouses, and small ghost towns that were once filled with thriving communities and active buildings.

2. 從這些城市探索的經歷中，你收穫了什麼？

城市探索對於我個人來說收穫了很多，在專業上同樣也是。我因為我的作品而有幸能夠得到一些全球性組織的讚譽和尊重，也因為城市探索見過很多很棒的人，他們都成了我非常珍視的朋友。我能夠富有創造力地獨立地表達自我，而不受任何局限。我探索了十幾個國家，包括幾乎美國所有的州和加拿大所有的省。我覺得我過了很多種不同的生活，我簡直就是這個世界上最幸運的人。我最近在思考的問題是，我如何能把我的經歷，轉變成對他人有用的東西？

I』ve benefited so much personally and professionally from urban exploration. I』ve been fortunate to receive a small amount of global recognition and respect for my work. I』ve met so many amazing people who I now consider to be cherished friends. I』ve been able to express myself creatively and independently without barriers. I』ve explored more than a dozen countries, including most American states and every Canadian province. I feel like I』ve lived multiple lives and that I』m the most fortunate person on the planet. The question I have for myself lately is: how can I turn my experiences into something useful for other people?

3. 你去過的最令你震驚的地方是？為什麼？

密歇根州中央火車站，底特律的前火車站，目前依舊是我最喜歡的廢墟。不管是從裡面看還是從外面看，它的建築和體量都非常壯觀。歷史上，除此之外就再沒有其他的廢墟能夠代表一個城市社會經濟的如此巨大的興衰。

Michigan Central Station, the former Detroit train station, is still my favourite abandoned place. Its architecture and stature are breathtaking, from both inside and outside perspectives. Historically, no other abandoned place in the world represents the rise and fall of a city』s powerful socio-economic status.

4. 在拍攝過程中有什麼有趣的、或者印象深刻事可以和我們分享么？

十五年來，我探索了這個世界上百個知名的、鮮為人知的廢墟，所以很難去強調單個的經歷。探索日本的「軍艦島」，在夜晚的德克薩斯州拍攝一架飛機的殘骸時被持槍的瘋子襲擊，它們都一樣地驚心動魄！我第一次記錄我的探險是在2002，它跟我上次的探險一樣地令人興奮。大部分冒險的主題都是一樣的——進出廢墟躲避看守偵查時腎上腺素的爆發，為這個地方的歷史記錄一個時間切片時，那難忘的寂靜時刻。

I』ve explored hundreds of famous and obscure abandoned places around the world over the past 15 years, so it』s difficult to highlight a single experience! Exploring Japan』s abandoned Gunkanjima island city was just as thrilling as photographing an abandoned airplane at night on a Texas field and then being assaulted and injured by a gun-wielding crazy man! My first documented exploration in 2002 was just as exciting as my last exploration. Most of the experiences share a common theme – the adrenalin rush of entering and exiting a location while trying to avoid detection and the hauntingly serene moments of documenting a slice of time in the location』s history.

5. 你現在特別想拍的地方是？

好幾年來，我都很渴望去中國的城市和廢墟。我尤其對西北地區感興趣。

For several years, I』ve had a keen interest to explore cities and ruins in China. I』m particularly interested in China』s northwest region.

6. 你曾在一篇採訪中推薦電影《大都會》，《大都會》這部電影對你的攝影產生過什麼影響嗎？

《大都會》和其他有名的科幻電影對我的攝影有很大的影響！相比於其他的攝影師，我其實更受科幻電影的攝影師，以及一些超現實主義的畫家影響。比如說，《銀翼殺手》是我最喜歡的科幻電影，而且我覺得我的作品中也很明顯地反映了它的視覺風格。

Metropolis and other legendary science fiction films have had an enormous influence on my photography! I』m mostly influenced by sci-fi cinematographers and surrealistic painters, rather than other photographers. For example, Blade Runner is my favourite science fiction film, and I feel that its visual style is very obviously reflected in my photographic works.

7. 對於其他致力於城市探索的攝影師，你能給點拍照建議么？

我對於新人的建議是，要尊重你拍攝的地方，尊重他們獨自的過去，現在，以及可能的未來。我希望不論是誰，在探索廢墟的時候應該像探索一個活的博物館。讓所有的一切保持你剛來的樣子，讓這個地方自己講述他的故事，而不是為了個人利益而人為地操作，編造他們的故事。

至於攝影，我建議在廢墟應該多關注自然光。隨著太陽的移動，光線的變化會非常大，一個攝影師應該時刻準備著改變他們的構圖，來揭示一個廢墟的性格，和令人難忘的超現實之美。

My advice to newcomers is to respect the locations and their individual past, present, and potential futures. I hope anyone who explores abandoned locations will treat them like a living museum; leave everything the way it was when you arrived and let the locations speak for themselves rather than manipulate their stories for personal gain.

As for photography, I recommend paying attention to the natural light in an abandoned location. Lighting can dramatically change as the sun moves across the sky and a photographer needs to be prepared to quickly change their composition to reveal the personality and hauntingly surreal beauty of an abandoned location.

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