1歲寶寶託管中心,在國外很普及的機構,為什麼中國沒有?

想了想,我肯定願意幫我家姑娘帶孩子;如果有這樣的機構,以我們這一輩接受的教育程度,老了以後去這樣機構做互助,既能幫自己孩子一把,又能不脫離社交,看起來是雙贏的。


早教老師前來回答

其實最大的問題,是這個行業沒有專業的老師可以做這件事情,大家知道的學前教育專業根本不是蒙氏,想學蒙氏的東西只能去國外,但是在國外學完的都不想回國,就算回國的首選也是進入幼兒園體系,so,很難


作為一個在美帝child care center工作了3年的老師我就說下我的理解。我是在我們大學下的child care工作的所以有蠻大一部分小孩都是學校職工的孩子。我們這最小班是6周就可以進來的6周-1歲半一個階段,1歲半-3歲一個階段,3-5歲一個階段(此階段分為3,4,5)上課分開上但是玩的時候會一起玩(我承認大部分時間都是一起玩耍)我教的是5歲每次上課時間為半個小時。

美國對於child care這方面其實很嚴格,對小朋友的年齡和老師的配比都是嚴格按照規定走的。我入職之前有三個月的培訓期(這些時間是一直沒完沒了的看DVD還有沒完沒了的考各種證照像是急救證照,消防安全之類的,還有就是各種背景調查啥的)基本就是把你所有信息扒個遍確認你沒任何記錄(包括開車罰單都算)才能正式錄用你。

在我工作的這個地方child care就給人很安心的感覺。小朋友的確會有些哭鬧但是作為老師也會有應對方案,當然不是強行把孩子帶走,我們一般會用玩遊戲,講故事或者其他小朋友過來找她一起玩這樣轉移哭鬧小朋友的注意力。基本一個禮拜左右小朋友都會變得愛來center了。

在我們center裡面最小的班級是2個孩子配一個老師。家長就會覺得比較放心因為老師相對來說是照看的過來的。像是我教的大班5歲的小孩是1個老師15個學生多一個都不行,基本上我們還會配一個assistant。

還有就是在美國我們老師發現小朋友身上有傷都會詢問一旦發現是父母或者其他人故意的行為馬上就會寫報告外加打電話去幼兒那個辦事處進行報警。警察會去抓那個虐待的人。(我們center曾經發生過一次那是在我入職前了)所以一般來說如果小朋友自己不小心撞傷一般家長早上送來時都會先告知以免引起誤會。

我們center的老師學歷基本都是碩士畢業園長一定就是博士啦!所以有很多家長想送進來而且我還發現美國的center居然也要排隊。

還有就是美國其實在child care方面是不只一個教育體系的有很多種!而且在我們大學的時候這個科系也是分的非常細緻是根據幼兒的每個年齡段來分的。


我對你說的這個問題非常感興趣,我個人從事幼教職業20年,最近正在考慮0一2歲嬰幼兒托兒機構,因為這塊市場很空白,而這個年齡段的人群需求很強列,如果你們也感興趣,我們可以聯繫!


參加過美國當地daycare入職培訓。

infant部分,寶寶怎麼餵食,換尿布時間,睡姿管理,零食管理,戶外時間,甚至哄睡覺的nanny時間,都是有嚴格要求的。更不要說針對母乳和牛乳的選擇,加熱方法,比例調配……還有更專業的嬰兒猝死防護課程,意外發生應對措施。

反正我是無法想像這些在國內從哪入手,如何實行,能實行成啥樣……

另外樓里有說3歲以前不適宜送孩子出去因為安全感沒建立的……無稽之談。小朋友對於安全感的建立不一定只來源於母親,這是其一,其二,有超過家庭之外的人參與呵護,屬於社交性培養,反而會加強寶寶在陌生環境的適應程度,從而促進安全感建立。

總之沒見過10個月大梳著4個朝天辮的金髮小美女第一次見就咧著嘴朝你笑的,是無法相信熊孩子也可以那麼天使。


我們在歐洲,寶寶一歲時去的day care,費用每個月1700多歐相當貴呀,但還好有退稅,上了半年了感覺對寶寶的性格培養很有好處,他現在很愛和其它小朋友們玩,除了一開始兩周哭,現在早上見到老師都挺開心的,主動和我們byebye,下班後去接也可開心了,每天都玩的挺開心的


我孩子剛剛8個月,現在一直是父母幫忙帶,但是明年父母想要回老家生活,要不就只有將孩子帶回老家,要不就自己帶,實在是捨不得孩子,想要明年辭職在家專門帶孩子,所以,想直接在家中開辦一個家庭託管班。只招收2個孩子。坐標重慶,各位覺得有什麼建議么?


國內4個老人2個大人看一個小孩,這玩意哪有市場?


歸結起來就是這個所謂的daycare日托市場在中國還是虛擬的,機構真實存在時大家並不會買單或者買單的人太少。如果這是個值得做的生意,而教育類向來不缺乏投資,一定會有資本蜂擁而入。可是培養新的消費習慣是最難的(參照滴滴),資本也想撿容易的做。

關於性價比,中國父母的不安全感,隔代的教育依賴等等大家都說得比較多了。其實要解決這個問題從另外一個角度而言就是要培養和挖掘這個消費觀念,政府和大公司可以在daycare方面先行,讓中國的一個階層先接受這種觀念,慢慢再推廣,如果這樣,也許我們到時候就不用當那個退休了還要帶孫子孫女的奶奶了!容我先高興一下 。

國外很多大公司比如google,microsoft等都有公司自己的日托,但是現在也是一席難求(基本懷孕就要開始排隊,有些還改成了抽籤搖號的方式,而且價格比較昂貴(內部員工子女1900美金一個月,師生比6:1左右)。

想多了解國外的公司日托的,你們可以參考一個google媽媽Xin Li的回答。

My daughter, who was 4, went to Pre-K at the Woods this past year. This was her first and last year at the Google Day Care. We too had heard about how amazing Google"s day care was, and was eager to find a spot for her. But we were on a waiting list for the past 3 years. And just when we had given up hope, we got an email telling us that we have a spot, if we wanted to take it. So of course we did.

In general, Google"s day care is very good, definitely a cut above the average day care centers you"d find in and around the bay area. There are several things I really liked about it:

  1. Excellent Teacher/Student Ratio The student teacher ratio is very good. We had a class of 24 kids, and 4 teachers. This in comparison to the program she was in last year, where it was 12 kids to 1 teacher.
  2. Individualized Attention Each student gets a lot of individualized attention. Within a few weeks, all the teachers knew what my daughter liked and didn"t like, knew her personality very well. Because she was a bit of a picky eater, we were concerned about whether she"d eat well during lunch. So during the first few weeks in school, we"d ask the teachers about how she ate during lunch. I was very impressed by the fact that the teachers were able to tell me in detail what she tried and didn"t try during lunch. They could also tell me whether she took a nap in the afternoon, and what she did during the day. This was the kind of attention that was unthinkable at her previous day care.
  3. StudentsTreated Like Adults Each student is treated like a smaller version of adults. This shows through in a couple of different ways. First, the teachers listen to the student"s concerns in the same way my manager would listen to mine. I"ve never seen a teacher take a patronizing tone with a student. Each child"s opinions are clearly valued. Students are also encouraged to make presentations in front of the class on whatever topic they want (vacations, favorite movies, etc). And the teachers will go all out, including setting up a projector with powerpoint (Google Slides actually), if that"s what the student wants. At the end of the presentation, there is a question and answer session.

  4. Individualized Learning Plan The teachers pay close attention to what each student"s interests are and really try to foster those interests. For example, my daughter was really into Elsa (who isn"t?), and wanted to make an Elsa dress. But instead of laughing it off as the flights of fancy most 4yr olds are prone to, one of the teachers decided to make a plan with her, starting with an exploration of fabrics, and eventually leading to learning how a sewing machine worked. Sadly, in the end she lost interest. So the project never went anywhere. But the fact that the teachers were willing to take her seriously and make a plan with her to accomplish those goals was very impressive to me.
  5. Focus on Emotional Development The school program focuses a lot on emotional intelligence and development. There is a lot of emphasis on being a part of a community, and having a shared space (the class room) that everyone owns, and has to take care of. There are rotating chores that each student must take turns doing each week (e.g. Setting the lunch table, clearing the table, and putting dirty dishes into the dishwasher, etc). There"s a lot of focus on team work and proper ways of conflict resolution.
  6. Food The food is all healthy, and cooked by the Google chefs. Most if not all organic and locally sourced (within 150miles). The kids sit together around a set of long tables and eat together, in a communal fashion. Serving dishes are passed around the table, and they have to be polite and ask their classmates to pass the potatoes, for example.

So those are the pros. But no program is perfect. Below are a few of the cons:

  1. Cost. It"s 1900 a month. And from what I heard, it"s actually getting a little more expensive next year. It"s a lot of money to spend on day care, even if you work for Google.
  2. Too much individual freedom. It"s got a little too much individual freedom. The kids can do pretty much anything they want. That sewing project that never got finished? This kind of thing happens a lot. When your child loses interest in something they started, they aren"t pushed to finish it. And if your kid isn"t as interested in reading or writing, the teachers won"t force it on them. And while I agree with this approach in general, I do wish there was a lit bit more focus on academics, like maybe 30 minutes out of the day to learn a few new words.
  3. Impossible to get into Despite the high cost of the program, there is still a huge amount of demand, and not nearly enough available slots. We were on a waiting list for 3 years. And now, they"ve done away with the waiting list and have adopted a random lottery instead. This makes it even more impossible to get into. My recommendation here is to submit your child"s name into the program as soon as you are pregnant. The best way to get a spot is to start as an infant. Of course not every parent will make this choice. We did not, and preferred to keep her home with us for the first few years.
  4. Commute. The commute is brutal, if you don"t live near Mountain View. All of the schools are near the main campus. But if you are like me, who lives in Fremont, then you are looking at an hour long commute in each direction.


以前我們國家的孩子都是自己撫養到一定年齡才會送到幼兒園,現在不同了,孩子出生父母沒時間帶就可以送到託管機構,託管機構目前在我們國家也很普遍,各種加盟品牌也很多,據了解比較靠譜的託管加盟品牌有:

1. 愛爾福嬰幼中心;2. 鯡魚寶寶;3. 青鳥嬰幼中心;4. 紅黃藍;5. 金寶貝中心


相信這樣的低齡兒童託管機構在國內一定會越來越多。國外那麼普遍無非是市場需求。媽媽們產假結束回歸職場,孩子總要有個去處。雖然說國外也有老人帶孩子,但是國外很多老人年紀很大了還在工作。所以類似託兒所的機構基本是剛需。

英國的幼兒園很多都接收0-5歲的孩子。通常0-2歲低齡孩子在一起。2-5歲的有分齡也有混齡班。

有完善教育體系的幼兒園跟目前中國多數的託兒所差距應該還是有的。

首先低齡段0-2歲在英國是遊戲教育為主,餵養時間只佔很少一部分,睡覺時間也基本跟家裡的日常習慣一致。我們的0-2歲孩子每天都會有孩子自主選擇和決定的藝術探索時間,繪本閱讀時間,音樂時間,messy play時間,想像力遊戲時間及其他遊戲時間。從早上8點到晚上6點,哪怕低齡段孩子還不會說話,但是老師跟他們的語言溝通和互動,唱歌遊戲,繪本閱讀,從早到晚,只要孩子感興趣,就會一遍又一遍地唱,一個故事又一個故事的講。除了睡覺時間,其他時間從來不會有安安靜靜的時候,總是聽得到老師在跟孩子們說各種東西,或者唱歌,或者講故事。閱讀在每一天會重複很多次。0-2歲每天就幾次的繪本閱讀,2-5歲才會對繪本和閱讀更加熱愛。

所有的遊戲設置,場景設置,繪本擺放都是根據孩子的興趣以及孩子的下一步學習計劃而決定,絕對不是做個擺設,想擺什麼就擺什麼。

每個孩子都會進行階段性的個體跟蹤,並且根據個體跟蹤情況調節教學內容和方式。

根據對孩子的個體跟蹤及群體跟蹤(某個老師負責的一群孩子的個體進展匯總),也可以看出老師的各方面水平以及需要的進一步培訓。

當然除了這些遊戲和學習的內容,安全對於一個幼兒園,或者託兒所,永遠是最重要的。校長的背調,園長和老師的背調,每天所有孩子活動的空間都會提前做風險評估。在沒有醫生開的帶有孩子名字和劑量的處方葯的前提下永遠不會喂孩子任何藥物(哪怕家長要求)。所有的換尿布記錄必須要記錄在案。所有睡眠記錄也必須記錄在案,並且每十分鐘必須檢查一次孩子睡眠情況。如果來幼兒園之前孩子身上有傷則必須記錄下孩子身上的傷 並要求家長把受傷經過文字確認。如果發現孩子身上有任何非正常部位的傷或者孩子透露了任何非正常內容(比方說:媽媽手打我了,真的很疼。),都要記錄在案,在確保孩子不會直接受到傷害時跟監護人溝通情況,在孩子可能受到直接傷害時,跟本地區兒童保護部門溝通。在沒有監護人正式授權的情況下和確認下,絕對不會讓孩子跟任何「熟人」離開幼兒園等。

如果我今後哪天要回來做一個低齡段幼兒園,我並不排斥國內目前的一些辦園資格要求,只要標準和要求是透明且可執行的。設想一下 一個連消防都沒有做好的幼兒園,這是對孩子們安全負責的態度嗎?我們英國的幼兒園消防不過關也是根本無法開業的。而且每年還必須付費進行所有消防材料檢查。對於安全而言,這些都是最最基本的。幼兒園必須買公共責任險和僱主責任險,沒有這些萬一有任何事情,怎麼確保有保障呢?

附上一些我們現在0-2歲孩子們的每日活動照片。


我最近正在做各種前期準備,打算建立一個完善的適合中國家庭的嬰幼兒託管中心,歡迎有同樣需求的寶媽一起探討,隨時和我聯繫溝通。


重慶就有啊,美福月全托


我的孩子就是在一歲半的時候送的北苑那邊的「優幼佳嬰兒學校」我覺得對我女兒的性格改善還是很有幫助的,在送去之前我也是了解了很多相關的情況,其實很多專家都建議在一歲半左右或者更早一點送的幼兒園,因為一歲半左右正是孩子需要群體意識的時期,而且早上幼兒園孩子更容易融入群體生活,比到三歲再送要容易適應的多。其實這真是一塊很大很好的市場,可惜國內還沒有很好的開展,如果發展的好除了能解決孩子的看護問題,相信也會間接的規範現在混亂虛高的保姆市場,相信家裡請過保姆看孩子的媽媽都能懂的。

雖然最近聽說「優幼佳嬰兒學校」因為欠了巨額房租倒閉了,真的很可惜,但我知道主要是內部管理經營的問題,這種托幼模式並沒有問題,其實我也很想自己做這方面的東西,但是也是一直不知道從何入手。


寶媽在哪?懷孕8個月了 覺得這塊很有市場 很感興趣 可以一起交流交流


非常欣賞寶媽的魄力和奉獻精神,偶也是個寶媽一枚,也曾經和正在被這些問題困擾,說曾經,是因為那時候我不得不妥協更多,把寶寶留在老家或者跟著姥姥姥爺頻繁的往返於北京和老家;說正在,是因為現在我在這些問題上不再妥協,但是又不得不時刻關注著父母的心情臉色和情緒,擔心自己或者寶爸的不周到讓老人心情不好,進而影響到寶寶的生活質量。雖不像墩兒媽有那麼多明面兒的問題,但無法言說的苦水兒也是一倒一肚子。

不過我既沒有請保姆的財力,也並不認可早教的性價比,當然更沒有寶媽的魄力直接萌生創辦家庭Daycare或互助小組的想法。不過我是深信0-2歲的Daycare一定會有非常大的市場和創辦價值,希望寶媽堅持自己的想法!!!


同意,我也在思考同樣的問題。


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