如何評價Harvey Weinstein?

01-18

第一次知道是看曉松奇談：曉松奇談好萊塢精英：惡棍天使，很好奇哈維本身是不是像高曉松說的那麼厲害。然後有沒有什麼哈維出品的電影推薦，之前就看了the Reader

謝邀。

今天又有新料爆出，是一段音頻，一方就是大佬Weinstein，另一方是一個叫Ambra Battilana Gutierrez的小模特。下面是音頻的具體內容。

Weinstein: I"m telling you right now, get in here.

Gutierrez: What do we have to do here?
Weinstein: Nothing. I"m going to take a shower, you sit there and have a drink.
Gutierrez: I don"t drink.
Weinstein: Then have a glass of water.
Gutierrez: Can I stay on the bar?

Weinstein: No. You must come here now.
Gutierrez: No …
Weinstein: Please?
Gutierrez: No, I don"t want to.
Weinstein: I"m not doing anything with you, I promise. Now you"re embarrassing me.

Gutierrez: I know, I don"t want to. I"m sorry, I cannot.
Weinstein: No, come in here.
Gutierrez: No, yesterday was kind of aggressive for me.
Weinstein: I know —
Gutierrez: I need to know a person to be touched.

Weinstein: I won"t do a thing.
Gutierrez: I don"t want to be touched.
Weinstein: I won"t do a thing, please. I swear I won"t. Just sit with me. Don"t embarrass me in the hotel. I"m here all the time. Sit with me, I promise —
Gutierrez: I know, but I don"t want to.
Weinstein: Please sit there. Please. One minute, I ask you.

Gutierrez: No, I can"t.
Weinstein: Go to the bathroom.
Gutierrez: Please, I don"t want to do something I don"t want to.
Weinstein: Go to the bathroom — Hey, come here. Listen to me —
Gutierrez: I want to go downstairs.

Weinstein: I won"t do anything and you"ll never see me again after this. OK? That"s it. If you don"t - if you embarrass me in this hotel where I"m staying —
Gutierrez: I"m not embarrassing you —
Weinstein: Just walk —
Gutierrez: It"s just that I don"t feel comfortable.
Weinstein: Honey, don"t have a fight with me in the hallway.

Gutierrez: It"s not nothing, it"s —
Weinstein: Please. I"m not gonna do anything. I swear on my children. Please come in. On everything. I"m a famous guy.
Gutierrez: I"m, I"m feeling very uncomfortable right now.
Weinstein: Please come in. And one minute. And if you wanna leave when the guy comes with my jacket, you can go.
Gutierrez: Why yesterday you touch my breast?

Weinstein: Oh, please. I"m sorry. Just come on in. I"m used to that.
Gutierrez: You"re used to that?
Weinstein: Yes, come in.
Gutierrez: No, but I"m not used to that.
Weinstein: I won"t do it again. Come on, sit here. Sit here for a minute, please?

Gutierrez: No, I don"t want to.
Weinstein: If you do this now you will [unintelligible]. Now go. Bye. Never call me again. OK? I"m sorry, nice to have — I promise you I won"t do anything.
Gutierrez: I know, but yesterday was too much for me.
Weinstein: The guy is coming. I will never do another thing to you. Five minutes. Don"t ruin your friendship with me for five minutes.
Gutierrez: I know — but, it"s kind of, like, it"s too much for me. I can"t.
Weinstein: Please, you"re making a big scene here. Please.
Gutierrez: No, but I wanna leave.
Weinstein: OK, bye. Thank you.

你看看人家自由派是怎麼說話，有沒有grab by the pussy的粗話？特朗普就是low，一比就看出來了。

謝@友善君邀。

主要是這幾天FakeNews NYTimes居然造謠好萊塢大亨Harvey Weinstein是個性侵慣犯。

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

要我說怎麼可能呢？

你看好萊塢那麼多聽見有人言語輕薄都要跳出來大批特批、恨不得就地處決，道德標準不知道高到哪裡去了的明星。

現在根本沒人出來指責嘛。

這怎麼能是真的呢？

在好萊塢這種高標準尊重女性的地方，怎麼會有這種事情發生？

你看看，值此抓貓門一周年之際，聯想去年的盛況，好萊塢女星卻紛紛安靜得不得了，顯然這事純屬捏造。

畢竟一個被全好萊塢痛斥的流氓說的:「And when you』re a star, they let you do it,you can do anything.」簡直是一派胡言，怎麼可能是真的呢？

再看看一直主打女性牌的希拉里，一直表示沉默。

顯然這事不是真的。

也難怪，畢竟是希拉里的金主之一，這麼政治正確又進步，怎麼可能是個性侵慣犯呢

還有偉光正的前總統奧巴馬，13次邀請他前往白宮。

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/10/05/visitor-records-harvey-weinstein-visited-obama-white-house-13-times/

能被這麼偉光正的總統邀請的，能是壞人嗎？

更加偉光正的前第一夫人誇讚他是「極好的人」。

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/10/06/michelle-obama-praised-harvey-weinstein-wonderful-human-being-good-friend

「He is a wonderful human being, a good friend and just a powerhouse.」

得到前第一夫人這麼高的讚譽，還能是壞人？

他是搞性侵的壞人米歇爾還能放心還能還把女兒送過去實習？

他還得到了偉光正前總統的顧問，女權倡導者Anita Dunn的公關協助。

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/06/harvey-weinstein-receives-pr-help-from-former-obama-adviser-womens-right-advocate-anita-dunn.html

還有著名女權律師Lisa Bloom幫助他。已交律師處理。

這麼進步的律師都來幫助他擺脫謠言了！

哼！

當然，FakeNews NYTimes又傳消息：

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/business/lisa-bloom-weinstein-attorney.html

居然說大律師辭職了？！

真是豈有此理。

FakeNews真是造謠成性，居然把無辜的製片人抹黑成這個樣子！

真是是可忍孰不可忍。

誰敢說Harvey Weinstein性侵慣犯，誰就是FakeNews，好萊塢進步女星帶頭打爛誰的狗頭！

欽此。

judi dench爵士不是說自己的butt上紋了一個韋恩斯坦么，結果第一個跑出來譴責自己的貴人，好萊塢翻臉真是比翻書還快。佩服。

哈維可以說是好萊塢的一代梟雄。

從英國病人，莎翁情史，芝加哥，無恥混蛋，國王的演講，藝術家，模仿遊戲，這些影片的奧斯卡獲獎背後都離不開哈維的韋恩斯坦影業在背後的操盤。

哈維諳熟奧斯卡不太聰明的評委們的喜好套路，而且作為營銷學大師，他善於審時度勢地將一部電影的熱度營銷到最大化。

哈維的問題主要在於情色交易上，這其實是好萊塢眾所周知的規則啦，想要上位獲獎，給個口活做個全套再正常不過了。只不過這東西大家再心知肚明也不能擺上檯面，加上近年女權主義之風，過去很正常的會被對手利用成性騷擾乃至於強姦。老哈的後宮遍及好萊塢，大家所認識的那些聲名顯赫的女星大多和老哈有交易關係。

這回栽了貌似是手足相殘

典型猶太人渣。也就高曉松舔成那樣。換個中國人這麼無底線做生意，搞交易，知乎口水都快淹死他了。

看到很多答案說好萊塢就這樣啊，有什麼啊。擺脫，你也不看看這哥們支持的理念說起來偉光正的一B，做的事情那是往牲口上靠的。

今天要不 @蘇穆羽吧。可能它離民主黨高層更近，可能有內幕。

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今天又有重磅消息了。好萊塢性侵不是個別現象，而且男女通吃（！）

Terry Crews reveals he was groped by an unnamed Hollywood executive amid Harvey Weinstein scandal

標題翻譯：Terry Crews揭示他曾被某不願透露姓名的好萊塢商界大佬性侵

牆內同胞可能不熟悉Terry Crews是誰（可能看過Brooklyn 99/神煩警探 美劇的同胞們知道）。首先，這位是男的。其次，他長這樣：

這個比較搞笑的截圖摘自他代言的某香水用品廣告：

對，他之前是玩橄欖球的職業運動員轉行，是個肌肉男。按照維基百科，他身高1.91米，體重111千克。

如果這樣的人都被性侵的話，你認為這群民主黨人渣會放過別人么？？？

我就在這裡慢慢等那群當時對川普黃段子大呼小叫的精神民主黨白左們：

全美反特朗普女性大遊行 | 各地現場集合

我是不是應該一天艾特一個呢？？？

今天要不挑 @Phil 吧。畢竟人家音樂劇看得跟我一樣多，不過被帶節奏了。

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看到了么？這個色狼竟然參加了1月的Women"s March!!! (細思恐極！）

如何評價2017.1.21華盛頓女性大遊行（Women"s March on Washington）？

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我來補充勁爆內容了。

Former TV anchor says Weinstein masturbated in front of her

全文翻譯我就不做了，貼下勁爆的內容以饗牆內讀者。

大致內容是，一個FNC的女記者，Lauren Sivan去採訪。這個色狼先是騙吻不成，然後說著就開始脫褲子暴露自己的香腸開始當著女記者的面開始打飛機了！！！結果這色狼可能是因為年齡因素，導彈很快就發射了，它找了旁邊的一顆盆栽然後把彈藥給進去了！！！

While partying with a friend and restaurant owner Giuseppe Cipriani, Weinstein offered the journalist a tour of the facilities.
Sivan said she reluctantly accepted the offer, with her friend remarking that if she wasn"t back in 10 minutes she would come get her.
Once in the kitchen of the restaurant, Weinstein attempted to kiss Sivan, which she rejected explaining that she was in a long-term relationship.
At that point, Sivan claims that Weinstein exposed himself and began masturbating.
Weinstein quickly ejaculated into a potted plant near the vestibule leading to the kitchen, according to Sivan, and returned back to the nightclub after cleaning up.
Sivan"s friend, who wished to remain anonymous, reiterated the details of the night to The Huffington Post, who was told about the incident immediately after the two left the club.
The next day, Weinstein called Sivan on the phone to ask if she wanted to get together after he returned from over seas, adding that he "had a great time last night."
Sivan quickly ended the phone conversation, reminding Weinstein that she had a boyfriend. She has not interacted with the movie mogul since.

所以你們說啥民

黨偉大光榮正確什麼的，要我們支持這種人渣我們做不出來呀，不像 @TimberNord 。

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世界真理報新鄉時報標題翻譯：

Harvey Weinstein在幾十年的時間內付封口費給性侵受害者（複數）

當然了，偉大光榮正確的民

黨認為，grab幾百個女人的pussy算什麼。但是川普就是吹牛說說也不行。

當然我們偉大的he for she 女拳旗手赫敏Emma Watson怎麼能例外？？？不過這個好像是he inside she (lol) @女木水

一想到這群齷齪男人私下幹了多少侵害婦女的罪行就讓我不寒而慄（shudder~)

就是匿名讓你們拉不了黑，哼~

很奇怪嗎？娛樂圈的潛規則哪裡來的？

好萊塢是鼻祖。

要拿角色，不和製片睡，誰理你？洛杉磯的外圍一坨一坨的，睡個想上位的，真心einfach。

我就敢說，好萊塢混出來的女星，90%以上都經過「槍林彈雨」的洗禮，見得多了。

本來大家都心知肚明的事情，現在搞得晴天霹靂似得，要怪就怪好萊塢這十幾年來，對自身形象的運營。從紙醉金迷變成了進步派的急先鋒，lgbt什麼破事都要插一腳。搞得好像他們除了錢和性，還在乎其他什麼事一樣。

裝。

現在就等某個女星開發布會，指正酒石老頭逼她就範，哭哭啼啼表示情非得已，婦女在哪兒都受壓迫，好不凄慘，大家一定要關注Frauenrechte。

一種欽定的感覺。

好萊塢權色交易大師（King maker if you wanna name him alternatively），性癮者加騷擾狂（BTW，他這行為用騷擾描述算輕的了）。To true liberals，當你的同儕有大概率（70%我覺得沒問題）是這樣心口不一的貨色時候你是沒辦法說服人的，更可能被標籤成hypocrite。所以去年presidential campaign的media propaganda那塊會那麼適得其反。稀爛對稀爛，那麼新鮮出爐那一坨比陳年老屎會好一點，快餐店地下室那種消息也有人信是因為Weinstein這類人干出來過同樣惡劣的事，然後Clinton恰恰是Weinstein同路人。https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/harvey-weinstein-harassment-allegations.html

PS：作為一個保守的進步主義者，我覺得US的左翼運動似乎越來越歪，滿活躍的好萊塢同時也是重災區，無論是自由性別種族還是階級。

嚴重懷疑這個人是種族主義者，不然打幾個和黑女站一塊的照片出來啊！

高中senior year見過一次Harvey Weinstein，和他女兒上同一節senior English。那時候在讀指環王三部曲,正好The Hobbit 快要上映了,她爹拿了拷貝來學校看她,順便在學校旁的電影院先給我們班上的都看了,看的時候把所有人手機都收走了。看完電影Harvey Weinstein請這節課的同學吃飯,主要也只說了The Hobbit的拍攝過程沒有更具體的對他本人的了解了。他女兒後來在我們編排表演指環王內容的時候讓她爹運了一批拍攝The Hobbit的道具戲服過來,把班上的人都嚇尿了。

他女兒每次上課坐我隔壁,閑聊的時候也只是說和她爸不親密,一年到頭見不了幾次,沒有很喜歡加州所以跑來東岸上高中了,結果最後還是被她爹弄去USC

上三張圖男奧女克女奧認證過的好人豈是爾等小民能理解的？

所以，就像高群耀有次罵我的一樣，別特么的整得你也像在好萊塢混的一樣，我站在他頂樓那個辦公室望著那塊大墳地，心裡罵道，cnmlgb，你不就比我聰明那麼一點兒嘛

出身紐約皇后區，猶太人，父親做鑽石生意，紐約州立大學畢業。27歲才創業，45歲依靠英國病人第一次拿獎，然後就一發不可收拾拿到手軟。

出品的電影大多文藝低成本風格，性謊言錄像帶，心靈捕手這類片有點像賈樟柯和早期張藝謀那種類型。

迪士尼8000萬美金收購了米拉麥克斯，自己也成了金主，有了幾部小金人加持。年齡也大了，路數更廣更深。把莎翁情人女主捧紅，後來國王演講又成了大贏家。

後來為給詹妮弗·勞倫斯主演的《烏雲背後的幸福線》做公關，溫斯坦聘請時任美國總統貝拉克·奧巴馬的競選團隊，開足馬力狂捧勞倫斯，拿到小金人。女主獲獎感言說，謝謝溫叔幫我打敗其他候選者。。。。

已經是大佬了，就是各種資本運作，媒體天天洗腦，政界還有撐腰。奧巴馬的大女兒都在他公司實習過，還給希拉里選舉出錢。這次據說是他弟曝光給媒體的，無風不起浪，有人帶節奏，然後牆倒眾人推。

Sanctimony Bites Weinstein Democrats
By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
One of the few successes of John McCain』s 2008 campaign was a 30-second ad called 「Celeb.」 It interspersed images of Paris Hilton and Britney Spears with Barack Obama and his adoring crowds. A narrator said: 「He』s the biggest celebrity in the world but is he ready to lead?」
Pundits and political pros dismissed the spot as off-target and unconvincing. Mr. McCain seemed almost embarrassed by it, claiming his campaign was just having 「fun.」
Yet the implication that Mr. Obama was a glitzy Hollywood-style confection resonated with voters. Mr. Obama, just coming off his ecstatic appearance in Berlin, saw his poll numbers drop noticeably. His advisers were quoted in the press acknowledging the ad』s power.
Which brings us to Harvey Weinstein. If Hollywood people are anything like normal people, they should be nearly as offended by Mr. Weinstein』s presumptions about them as they are by his alleged bullying of women for sex. Where does he get off assuming his colleagues can be so easily manipulated, will so readily fall in line, just because he cites, as he did in his recent self-defense, their shared liberal politics?
How can somebody with his smarts be so heavy-handed and obvious as to think he can mint an instant pass for his transgressions merely by alluding to his opposition to the National Rifle Association and President Trump ?
Then again, maybe we』re missing the real point. Mr. Weinstein was reminding liberal elites that his trouble is their trouble, because they tolerated him for so long. That』s why this scandal may have legs.
He was a guest at the Obama White House 13 times. He gave hundreds of thousands to the Clintons. In 2016, he hosted or headlined multiple fundraisers for Mrs. Clinton with people like Leonardo DiCaprio, Helen Mirren, Julia Roberts and Sarah Jessica Parker.
He was coached by Team Clinton for a campaign appearance on CBS . In turn, he coached campaign chief Robby Mook on how to answer the Bernie Sanders threat.
He』s also a man who the Los Angeles Times now tells us was 「generally loathed」 in Hollywood. His sexual predations were so well known that they were the subject of a joke on 「30 Rock.」 His behavior, we now learn, has been the subject of ongoing reporting projects at the New Yorker, New York magazine and the New York Times, which finally blew Mr. Weinstein out of the water with its 3,500-word account last week.
His offenses were the 「biggest mess」 Disney had to deal with during its 12-year partnership with Mr. Weinstein, a former executive now tells the Times. Actresses Ashley Judd and Rose McGowan, who related their stories to the paper, as well as Lena Dunham, creator of HBO』s 「Girls,」 have been outspoken in the aftermath about Tinsel Town』s history of covering up for Mr. Weinstein.
Then there is Meryl Streep, who worked closely with Mr. Weinstein, who sang his praises at the Oscars. She claims never to have heard the unsavory stories. Her denunciation of Mr. Weinstein』s alleged sins this week came not when the Times story broke, not when Mr. Weinstein took a leave of absence from the company he created—but only when his board (led by his brother) stuck a final fork in him by announcing his firing.
OK, hypocrisy is a price we pay for civilization. Politicians and Hollywood types especially are in the business of faking sincerity. Yet there is one thing about which the Hollywood-progressive nexus has been perfectly sincere: its conviction that its choice of political party is a testament to its own shining personal virtue. The Democrats』 celebrity enablers played a key role in fostering the inordinate self-righteousness of the modern progressive movement, which has reached ad absurdum proportions lately with the violent bullies of the Antifa movement.
The McCain 「Celeb」 ad, in retrospect, was a signpost. Last year the Democrats finally offloaded a big chunk of working-class and middle-class America, many of whose residents had been Obama voters. The Democrats became the concentrated party of urban blue America, with urban blue America』s special susceptibility to the self-celebritizing aspects of social media.
Republicans and conservatives were understandably delighted by Mr. Weinstein』s ludicrous appeal to partisan solidarity in the midst of his sexual harassment extremis. Maybe progressives would like to come up and watch him shower later?
Donald Trump, of course, has been guilty of offenses against feminism too, though apparently not like Mr. Weinstein』s. Rather, the real connection is this: Liberal hypocrites like Mr. Weinstein were a big reason 63 million Americans voted for a conservative hypocrite like Mr. Trump.
Mr. Trump has his faults, but an excess of sanctimony isn』t one. Just maybe when the Weinstein scandal has run its course, progressives will discover the virtue of toning down their own excessive claims to righteousness.

Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/sanctimony-bites-weinstein-democrats-1507675466?mod=trending_now_4

瀉藥，以我的出發點來講我真的很討厭他，但同時他也確實是個很有本事的人，但是我不敬佩他，就憑他騷擾好萊塢女明星長達十年之久。。而且潛規則在好萊塢本來就是遊戲規則，討厭他就是因為他一副豬油樣還那麼多後宮，雖然我李也有很多女友。。但是我李的女友起碼還都是正常關係的。。。就算我李和他一樣胖起碼我李還是個很帥的胖子，額，總之希望他最好能牢底做穿惹。

miramax 以前是好萊塢最大 "文藝片"製作公司，後來成立weinstein company . .也就是說，凡是最近20多年好萊塢口碑比較好，比較文藝，獲獎女演員都有大概率和他有染。而那些純粹的花瓶女星反倒得以倖存。。

也就是說那些演技差，素質低，在一些硬漢動作片里賣弄大波，大長大腿的，相對清白。。而文藝女神，個個都是婊子。。

其實現在好萊塢搞這種老套潛規則的也就是他這位老兄一人了。。其他大亨，要麼gay,要麼是注重政治層面使屈服。也就是說，我不搞你，你從非洲收養幾個小崽子吧。。

當然好萊塢也不是沒有好人，清白的。。低於 10% 吧

他比較適合出品一部《逐夢演藝圈》（美國版）

最新消息：Harvey Weinstein被自己的公司解僱了。

武德一點兒也不充沛。

怕啥？And when you are star, they let you do it. You can do anything. 這道理都不懂？

這時候不應該趕緊上twitter跟Fake News NYT互懟嗎？開個新聞發布會，請上自稱被Fox老幾位主播摸過的女性懟一波保守派，再加上左媒造造勢，還愁輿論不反轉？

MSNBC連篇累牘的懟Weinstein，說他道歉不誠懇，說好萊塢明星們不表態。

左左們不是應該沆瀣一氣嗎？不應該隱瞞不報嗎？這讓我們以後怎麼在川乎上嘲諷左左Fake News？

嘴皮子這麼軟，真雞兒給白左丟人。

「And when you』re a star， they let you do it，」 Trump says。「You can do anything。」

「當你成為一位明星，他們會讓你這麼做」，特朗普說，「你可以做任何事」。

「Whatever you want，」 says another voice， apparently Bush』s。

「任何你所要的」，另外一個聲音，很明顯是布希。

「Grab them by the p---y，」 Trump says。「You can do anything。」

「抓住她們的下體，」特朗普說，「你真的可以做任何事」。

Harvey Weinstein只不過親身出來論證特朗普這段話而已。但願他還有機會對著鏡頭說出這樣的話：

「我非常尷尬也很羞愧，但是我不能責怪任何人，這段對話發生在11年前，當時我還很年輕，不成熟，表現很愚蠢，我感到非常抱歉。」

維恩斯坦的確沒得洗，但有些回答立刻又把槍頭調轉回來攻擊希拉里，維護川普這是要搞哪樣？你們忘記了Bill O"Reilly那檔子事兒了？你們忘了 Tim Murphy了？