《華爾街之狼》里股票經紀人靠打電話就能向一個陌生人推銷、出售股票,這種模式在中國有沒有出現過?



現在依舊有著。

幾個月前,中國股票還在蒸蒸日上的時候,一個英國過來的電話打通了我新加坡的手機。之後是華爾街之狼里那種充滿煽動性的演說持續約15分鐘,標準的輪蹲音,比國內那些打詐騙電話的湖建人高到不知道哪裡去了。這個電話的主題是,中國股市快不行了,大盤要崩了,快把你的錢交給我們打理,只有我們能給你最大的效益。

當時我還沒看華爾街之狼,我還滿倉在股市裡折騰呢,小樣觸你大爺的眉頭?不理你。

過了幾個禮拜大盤真的崩了,那哥們又打電話回來了,大意是你看我說對了吧,真崩了吧,錢拿來我幫你炒,信用卡號給我。

我問他那大盤都崩了你怎麼賺錢,你告訴我什麼原理,你也別光白話,發個郵件給我我好好學習研究下。

於是我收到了下文的郵件,其實大部分是廢話

DearMr. XXX

It was a pleasure speaking with you today and I look forward on building a long term relationship with you as your broker.

Here is a little more of the information that is coming out to the light about the Chinese Stock market and why it is going to crash.

The China Bubble Is Going to Burst

It』s no longer a question of whether China』s stock-market rally is a bubble, but when the bubble will burst.

That』s the refrain from a growing number of analysts as valuations climb to levels that by some measures already exceeds the peak of China』s last equity mania in 2007.

A market crash may come within six months, Bocom International Holdings Co. said Tuesday, citing an analysis of global bubbles over 800 years that shows the speed of gains in China mirroring past market peaks. Macquarie Investment Management, whose Asian stock fund is outperforming 97 percent of peers in 2015, has already eliminated exposure to mainland shares after turning bearish for the first time in seven years. The government may engineer a correction if valuations rise much further, according to CLSA Ltd.

「We are probably going to be in a very volatile trading period before a crash eventually happens,」 Hao Hong, the chief China strategist at Bocom International in Hong Kong, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. 「It is plain that China is in a bubble.」

Fueled by record margin debt and unprecedented numbers of novice investors, China』s market capitalization has tripled in the past year to $9.8 trillion. At 84 times projected earnings, the average stock on mainland exchanges is now almost twice as expensive as it was when the benchmark Shanghai Composite Index peaked in October 2007.

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In a sign of how quickly investor sentiment can shift, the Shanghai gauge has tumbled 5.4 percent over the past two days, after closing at a seven-year high on June 12. The index rallied 1.65 percent on Wednesday, bringing its 12-month gain to 140 percent.

The combination of surging turnover and rapid price gains in China』s Yuan-denominated A shares suggests a market peak is near as traders continuously test whether 「the greater fool」 will step in to buy, Hong said. He estimates the Shanghai Composite could climb as high as 6,100, versus Wednesday』s close of 4,967.9, before turning lower.

The 20-day average value of shares changing hands on mainland exchanges has jumped to about $314 billion, versus $244 billion on bourses in the U.S., which has a market capitalization more than twice the size, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

「If you look at the A-share market, it』s becoming very speculative,」 Sam Le Cornu, who oversees about $3 billion in Asian equities at Macquarie in Hong Kong, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television on Tuesday. 「That』s the root cause of the concern when you have bubbles.」

Too Pessimistic

While some parts of the Chinese market are overextended, valuations on the whole aren』t high enough to warrant a crash, according to Miranda Carr, the head of China thematic research at Espirito Santo Investment Bank.

The Shanghai Composite, which has about half its weighting in financial and industrial companies, is valued at 18 times projected earnings. That compares with 65 times for the nation』s Chi Next gauge, which is dominated by technology shares.

「The idea that this is going to suddenly peak and burst, and you』re going to have this sort of cataclysmic crash, and it』s all going to be over -- that』s way too pessimistic,」 Carr said in an interview on Bloomberg Television in London. 「What you』re going to see is a correction in some of the really highly-valued areas.」

Bubble Signs

Chinese policy makers view a 12-month forward price-to-earnings ratio of 20 as a signal of over-valuation for the broader market, Francis Cheung, a strategist at CLSA in Hong Kong, wrote in a June 12 report titled 「Bubble trouble.」 If shares keep rising, the government will probably introduce a stamp duty on stock purchases, Cheung wrote.

For Pau Morilla-Giner, the chief investment officer at London Capital Group Ltd., mainland markets have become too speculative for international money managers to take part. Swings in the Shanghai gauge over the past 30 days are bigger than every other market worldwide except Greece, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

「It smells like a bubble, it looks like a bubble, and it walks like a bubble,」 Morilla-Giner said in an interview on Bloomberg Television in London. 「Steer clear, that is the trade.」

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我一看title,senior trader, 我靠都不知道給自己冠一個Senior vice president之類的名,也不看看華爾街之狼漲一下姿勢。。。。懶得理他。。。。。

然後後面就是他繼續打騷擾電話,我抱怨下看到了他們公司的不良記錄神馬的,總之就是無聊的對話。後來我都懶得接了,直接電話黑名單了。

以上


上周接到了這樣的電話,也許和我註冊網站習慣留真實手機號有關。

本來接到類似電話都直接掛的,但因為知乎上看到過這個問題,就關注了一下,他那天早上9點推薦了3個股票,當天兩個迅速拉升緩慢走低,一個直接下跌,截止收盤,三個都下跌了。

第二天,真的很意外,他居然還第二次打電話過來,又推薦一個股票,當時走勢正在上漲,過幾分鐘去看開始走低,收盤後再看,他打電話那會兒差不多是這個股票走到最高點。

最糟糕的事情是,這四個股票都是不可融券的,所以,看了白看。

所以,大多數電話推銷和電話詐騙一樣,都是騙成一次算一次的,一次真的都不會有。


請問是135XXXX1234的機主嗎?

您做股票嗎?

您做黃金嗎?

您做白銀嗎?

我沒有繼續對話,接到此類電話的時候,你可以試試。


你沒收到過騷擾電話?


目前國內應該還是這個情況,我11年到13年做過期貨經紀人,也有幾個股票經紀人朋友,模式差不多,主要是打騷擾電話,怎麼說呢,99%的電話都是白打,很少一部分是在做的,沒做過還感興趣的更少。不過碰到有意向的基本兩個星期之內就能開戶,也許是我自身水平不夠,客戶賠的多賺的少,想積累客戶達到高收入很難,我最多的時候一個月一萬二,最少的時候一千六,後來覺得這行不適合我就不幹了。目前轉行會計師事務所了,主要是接地方財局委託查稅的活。當時我們營業部有個牛人,每天保底200個電話,我記得有一次發傭金他拿了20多萬。一般人的話不建議幹這一行,如果口才好或者人脈廣的話可以干,按照我們營業部負責人的話說就是三年不開倉開倉吃三年。這行運氣也挺重要的,也許辛辛苦苦好幾個月攢了幾個小客戶,客戶資金加起來100萬冒頭的樣子,一個月七八千傭金,也有可能一個電話過去打來一個八位數級別的大戶,我們營業部一哥們也不知道是什麼運氣,聯繫到一個浙江的鯨魚級別的客戶,他連著5次判斷對了行情,就那種中期行情,跨度一個星期左右的,那個客戶心動轉到我們這邊做,不過自從他轉來那哥們就沒說對過行情了,不過他會搞關係,和客戶關係挺融洽的,也許人家覺得轉來轉去麻煩也就沒走一直在這裡做,就那一個客戶每個月就能創造兩三萬的傭金,維持了大半年吧。


這不就是賣貴金屬期貨電銷的那些人嗎?

騙人的方式和套路完全都是翻版。


你竟然沒有接到過這種電話?


多了去了,只要你開過戶,資料就有可能泄露,電話就會接二連三的來了


有啊,我做過。。。


就好像推銷保險的一樣,呵呵。


有啊,現在還存著著,看看有多少QQ群炒股薦股就知道了。


讓我想到國內很多三方理財公司就是通過這樣陌電來賣理財產品…


在國內電話推銷開戶的都是效率很低的方式 還沒掃街推銷好


貴金屬,315


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