怎麼看唐慧案2名被告死刑未核准？

01-13

我最大的感觸是最高法院暫時抵住了輿論的壓力，與之前李某某、葯家鑫案相比，可謂是巨大的進步呢。

其實本案的真相挺撲朔迷離的，我比較贊同no one is innocent～在真正接觸法律案件以後，才會發現那些看似的弱著，或多或少都會有一些不對的地方，可能是因為貪心，可能是因為愚蠢。最高法院的行為總有它的原因。

畢竟生活不是電視劇，哪有什麼絕對的正義。

個人認為不僅僅是最高法認為對犯罪嫌疑人的判決受到了干擾，而且最高法也表面一態度，不希望被害人一方通過反覆上方，刻意要求判嫌疑人某種刑，甚至通過媒體報道，影響判決量刑。是司法進步的表現。

法律準繩和人民心目中的道德衡量室友偏差的。作為民眾，我也覺得很憤慨，為何畜生不被千刀萬剮死刑立即執行？但是冷靜下來想一想，最高法畢竟是全國最高一級法院，這麼做必然有其道理，我們沒有接近事實的真相的時候也不能妄下結論。但是一介草民依然希望逆天理者必遭天譴！

輿論上，有些媒體為了迎合民眾，在報道這件事情時沒有尊重事實。其次，從法律來講，這件事判無期已經屬量刑過重。網上那些言論普遍沒有公正的同情心（這裡缺乏的是對7個被告的同情）。

我覺得法律應該獨立於任何世俗關係而存在，之前輿論的導向明顯影響了法院的判決。

對主犯從重處罰無可厚非，可是從犯呢，
要求對七名犯罪嫌疑人全部判處死刑，不判死刑就上訪，這不是很明顯的輿論綁架么。

上訪不除，法制無望。

I think this is totally absurd. There are multiple problems with this ruling. The court ruling says:

根據刑法第三百五十八條規定，強迫他人賣淫只有情節特別嚴重的，如大規模強迫賣淫犯罪集團的首要分子，強迫多名幼女賣淫的，多次在公共場所劫持他人拘禁後強迫賣淫的，或者強迫賣淫手段特別殘忍、造成被害人嚴重殘疾或者死亡等情形，才可考慮判處死刑。對於情節特別嚴重的認定，應結合行為人強迫賣淫的人次規模、作案對象、犯罪手段、強製程度、犯罪後果、社會影響等因素綜合加以判斷，確保罪責刑相適應。

Regardless of its validity, I want to argue that all factors considered, this is extreme crime and the charges should never be reduced or exonerated. To me, by listing the factors and explaining why they did that, the supreme court was only revealing its own logical inconsistency. Let list the six factors one by one:

強迫賣淫的人次規模:

直至12月30日被解救為止，樂樂已經被迫賣淫百餘次，並曾於12月下旬某日，在賣淫過程中，遭劉潤、蔣軍軍、蘭小強和秦斌4人輪姦。

作案對象:

樂樂，案發時為小學五年級學生

犯罪手段:

10月3日樂樂出走後，實際上被周軍輝帶到了秦星和陳剛開設的「柳情緣休閑中心」賣淫。期間樂樂在秦星和陳剛的安排下被送到當地各賓館賣淫。

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並曾於12月下旬某日，在賣淫過程中，遭劉潤、蔣軍軍、蘭小強和秦斌4人輪姦。賣淫所得贓款被秦星、陳剛和周軍輝分得。

強製程度:

此後，周軍輝多次從秦星處領取張某某賣淫所得款共１０００餘元，外出打工後又委託朋友魏治敏（綽號「韋劍」）繼續領取張某某的賣淫所得款。其間，張某某因不服從賣淫安排，與秦星發生爭吵並朝秦星臉部打了一巴掌。陳剛見狀朝張某某臉部打了一下，周軍輝聞訊趕來亦打了張某某臉部一下，要張某某尊重老闆、聽從安排。

犯罪後果:

樂樂被救後，經醫生確診為嚴重的創傷後應激精神障礙和性病，並極有可能喪失生育能力。

社會影響:

There is really no need to say anything.

It is clear that except the "強製程度" factor, all other factors are extremely bad. And the "強製程度" factor is relatively insignificant only because the victim was young and innocent. Also, the court seems to have a misleading idea with "強製程度". This should be not just the level of physical coercion, but also involves the level of psychological cajolement, torture and manipulation. For example, the standard interpretation of the law says:

「強迫他人賣淫」主要是指行為人採取暴力、暴力威脅或其他手段，違背他人意志，迫使他人賣淫的行為。這裡所說的「強迫」既包括直接使用暴力手段或以暴力相威脅，也包括使用其他非暴力的逼迫手段，如以揭發他人隱私或者以可能使他人某種利害關係遭受損失相威脅，或者通過使用某種手段和方法，使他人陷入絕境，在別無出路的情況下，違背自己的意願從事賣淫。無論行為人採取哪一種強迫手段，都構成強迫他人賣淫罪。

In this case clearly the victim has been exhorted to be a prostitute and coerced to make money for them. Even the court ruling acknowledged that:

雖然周軍輝、陳剛實施的暴力程度較輕，但被告人是成年人，且系多人，而被害人年僅１０歲，孤身年幼、身心脆弱、易受傷害，缺乏自我保護能力，此情形足以對被害人形成較強的精神強制，迫使其不敢反抗。

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被害人張某某賣淫明顯違背其本人意願。案發時張某某是年僅１０歲的幼女，身心發育尚未成熟，對性行為的性質、後果缺乏認知和判斷能力，不具有性的自主權，缺乏自願賣淫的基礎。張某某本人亦始終陳述，其系被迫賣淫。

I think all factor considered, this is extremely bad crime and I am short of superlatives to describe it. However the court claimed the death penalty is inappropriate because:

但根據被害人陳述及證人李某某、蔡某某、陳某某等的證言，證實被害人可與其他證人結伴外出、經常到附近網吧上網，未被完全限制人身自由，除有一次因不服從賣淫安排，被打臉部外，未發現被害人受到二被告人的其他暴力侵害。鑒於周軍輝、秦星強迫賣淫的暴力、脅迫程度，犯罪情節的惡劣程度尚未達到情節特別嚴重，第一審判決、第二審裁定對二被告人以強迫賣淫罪判處死刑立即執行量刑不當。

I think this is totally absurd. From this point of view, raping an innocent child and exhorted her to be a prostitute, damaging her life forever is not bad enough; one has to physically coerce her, abuse her, mutilate her to such a degree that one really "deserves" death penalty. Further, most of the "clients" of the gang that had raped her literally walked away without any serious punishment because they "did not know" the victim was underage. Does this make any sense?

The only argument that does make sense is:

此外，本案複核期間又出現新的證據，可能影響對秦星是否構成立功的認定，依法應予查明。據此，我院依法裁定不核准二被告人死刑，將案件發回湖南省高級人民法院重新審判。

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and I agree it should be properly investigated. But - shouldn"t this be judged properly at the lower level court already?

Overall I would say the ruling only showed how dark our legal system is. I do not think an ordinary Chinese citizen would be induced to believe that they can outwit the legal system by playing the martyr and win popular support. Instead they would believe whatever effort they put into to get justice for what they suffered, they would be facing unknown trouble from the legal system, because what is intuitively clear to them is not clear from the viewpoint of judges and lawyers(and journalists). This means the belief of the rule of law will be gradually discredited. Instead people would consider to revenge by seeking help from local crime organizations, powerful and corrupted officials, and even fight "the bad" guys personally themselves. The result will be more chaos and vengeance in our society, not progress towards "a state of law".

References:

http://www.szse.cn/main/files/2010/11/04/409615597420.pdf

刑法解釋：第三百五十八條【組織賣淫罪、強迫賣淫罪定義、量刑】

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