上帝和真主在其各自教義里有何區別，為何某穆斯林可以用無神論的典型方式駁斥上帝？

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某英國穆斯林是這麼談論上帝和真主的：
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天啊,無論什麼時候我都覺得真主更好。
你們的上帝阻止邪惡是不是有心卻無力？
那麼他就不是萬能的。

他阻止邪惡是不是有力卻無心？
那麼他就是惡毒的。
他阻止邪惡是不是既有心也有力？
那麼, 惡從何而來？
他阻止邪惡是不是既無心也無力？
那你們為什麼要叫他上帝呢？
呼喚真主吧，呼喚上帝既無用也無意義。
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這種論調，我感覺非常象無神論對於一神論的經典駁斥觀點。我非常驚訝何以穆斯林可以用這種方式來駁斥上帝？他們的哪些理論可以作為這種駁斥的論據？同出於亞伯拉罕諸教派的兩個宗教對於安拉和上帝的描述有什麼不同，求教下。
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原文：
geez, and all this time I thought it wasALLAN.
Is your God willing to prevent evil, butnot able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able to prevent evil, but notwilling?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing to preventevil?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing to preventevil,
Then why call him God?」

Just call him ALLAN its just as useless andmeaningless.
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從籠統意義上說，那個the GOD，在基督/伊斯蘭/猶太教里是同一的，各自稱名不同，再加上各種或正宗或野路子的演繹，我們看到的就是上帝/耶和華/安拉/真主/唯一神/天父/天兄/神，等等等等。他們的本質可說是同一個「至高的、唯一的、排他的」人格化神。

所以，這個穆斯林其實是也算在自黑，他家的真主倒是承認自己不行，派了個文盲穆罕默德傳下各種法律戒條，歷經一千四五百年而繼續規範著信徒，防止他們的智商超過自己。

說到這個，某次在清真餐館吃面，翠綠的招牌寫著阿語，服務人員帶著頭巾，牆上掛毯讚美真主。翻開菜單第一句：顧客就是上帝……

這個館子才是真正理解了三教同源的真諦啊！

宗教團結萬歲！

先說結論：上帝是唯一的神，而真主是神的敵人——撒旦。

出自：

譯言網 | 【伊斯蘭教----真主安拉】Know Your Enemy ----認識你們的敵人26

視頻： https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O-Zse7n8V0

穆罕默德出生在月神崇拜佔主流的文化里。更進一步說，他出生在阿拉伯古萊氏部落(Quraysh），那裡的人都崇拜月神。從數不清的碑文里，看到這個月神的名字是阿-拉（al- ilah），意思是「神」，是至高的神。al- ilah神，前伊斯蘭教時代里，簡寫成Allah。

這個部分可能會讓你有些迷惑。目前為止，巴比倫宗教系統里的太陽神，一般都是以男神的形象出現，月神則是女神。而現在是說男性月神（moon god），而非月亮女神（moon goddess）。這是因為秘術系統里有不少分支，角色有時會反轉。在這裡，男神是月亮，女神是太陽。秘術的這種形態，在阿拉伯世界、歐洲的薩克森人（Saxons）、斯堪地那維亞人（Norsemen，挪威人）中較為普遍。男女神祗角色反轉的現象，在阿拉伯世界裡長期、廣泛地存在，後來才漸漸湮滅。這種罕見的男女神祗角色反轉，今天依然存在。

寧錄的父親------庫緒（Cush）仍以Meni或Manai的頭銜被敬拜，而Meni的意思是「算數者」，他在巴比倫系統里被認為發明了算術。在薩克森、斯堪的納維亞地區，特別是在蘇格蘭地區，直到今天，新年聚會依舊被叫做除夕聚會（Hogmanay），這個詞是從Hog-Manai而來，意思是「算數者的慶典」，「算數者」計算了紀年。這是另一個巴比倫文化滲入英國文化的例子。

穆罕默德的父親、叔叔都把Allah （安拉）放入了他們的名字：父親的名字叫做Abd-Allah，叔叔的名字叫做Obied-Allah。這對應了巴比倫文化中，將「汝神之名」嵌入自己名字的傳統，通過將偉大月神放入名字的辦法來敬拜它。

這回答了以下疑問：為什麼在&<古蘭經&>中未對Allah（安拉）進行定義和解釋？為什麼穆罕默德默認為那些個「異教阿拉伯人」早已認識了安拉？

答案是，阿拉伯人確實早已認識了安拉------安拉本來就是他們的月神。穆罕默德甚至沒有在&<古蘭經&>中費力介紹這位新神的概念，而僅將這位新神建立在阿拉伯地區已經存在的月神身上。穆罕默德與那些敬拜多神的阿拉伯人的不同之處在於，他更進一步：多神教阿拉伯人崇拜月神安拉的時候，認為安拉是阿拉伯眾神中最偉大的神，而穆罕默德則認定安拉不僅最偉大，而且安拉是唯一的神。

穆罕默德說：「看啊，你們已經相信月神安拉是眾神中最偉大的神，但我要你們接受安拉是唯一的神。我不是要把安拉拿走，只是要把安拉的妻子、女兒們和其他的神拿走。」下圖是在阿拉伯地區發現的安拉塑像，注意在他胸前的新月形。

原來那些敬拜多神的阿拉伯人，從未指責穆罕默德，因為穆罕默德沒有引進一位新的安拉神；考古學的證據發現，安拉神一直維持不變。&<大英百科全書----宗教&>說：「安拉是一個伊斯蘭教出現以前已經存在的神....對應於巴比倫的BEL神（巴力）」。安拉是換了新名字的巴力，其他並無改變。

穆罕默德兩手抓：對阿拉伯人，他說他依然相信月神安拉；對猶太人和基督徒，他說安拉和上帝無區別。這也是天主教的招數，他們將基督教和多神宗教混合起來。今天，很多基督徒不明就裡、相信安拉和上帝是同一位神，而事實上，安拉其實就是古老的巴力神。

幸運的是，那個時代的猶太人和基督徒很清楚穆罕默德的騙局，他們拒絕了安拉，並認定安拉也是假神之一。這激怒了撒旦，也激怒了撒旦的牽線木偶----穆罕穆德。A計劃之奉承和操縱失敗後，B計劃之威脅、殺戮和暴力隨之降臨。

穆罕默德與猶太人的敵對關係可以非常清晰地被看出來。 &<古蘭經&>前後兩個部分存在非常明顯的風格分野，這與穆罕穆德的前後兩個人生時期所呈現的狀態高度相關-------早年穆罕穆德住在麥加（Mecca），沒有什麼名望和影響力，比較弱小；後來他成為一位富庶的軍閥式首腦，遷至麥地那（Medina），並在那裡獲得政權。

麥加時期撰寫的&<古蘭經&>，行文寧靜，此時穆罕默德還沒有多少軍事實力，他要讓當地的猶太人相信他是上帝的先知。這是A計劃時期。後來穆罕默德在麥地那獲得財富和權力，該時期他所撰寫的&<古蘭經&>，充滿對猶太人的仇恨和怒火。這是B計劃時期。穆罕默德開始預備戰爭，對象是那些反對他、或反對他的教訓的人。

伊斯蘭教中的"作廢"的原則，對我們理解古蘭經十分重要：古蘭經中，若有兩段自相矛盾的經文，那麼前面的段落（或較早的段落）將作廢；&<古蘭經&>中關於暴力、戰爭的經文是在後半部分、較晚（麥地那時期）撰寫，麥加時期的那些寧靜的經文就作廢了。

這個原則，是穆斯林的工具：當我們質疑他們有關伊斯蘭教的暴力時，他們就會引用麥加時期（早期）的寧靜的經文。一般人也許就這麼被說服了，因不明白伊斯蘭教中的「作廢」原則。穆罕默德在麥地那時期的言行，讓伊斯蘭教無止境地恨惡猶太人、造成中東的問題，這些言行也以侍奉安拉的名義，鼓勵一切形式的恐怖主義、謊言、暴力、對不信者的謀殺/ 壓制/ 統治，然後任意抵消所行的一切罪惡。

伊斯蘭恐怖分子並沒有違背穆罕默德的教訓，他們的行為與1400年前沒有變化。聖經里（耶穌）說："你們要從樹的果子來認識樹。「整個伊斯蘭教的歷史，充滿了這種形式的暴力，當我們回顧穆罕默德的人生細節，就能發現為什麼。"-------壞樹的樹根伸到黑暗王國，壞樹結出壞果子。

以下是穆罕默德的教訓和行為：

」與擋在安拉道路上的人打仗，殺死那些不相信安拉的人。「------Ibn Ishaq 992

"不管在哪裡遇到異教徒，就和他們打仗，戰場上圍攻、埋伏、抓住他們，殺死他們；如果他們相信願意相信安拉，就建立正常的禱告敬拜生活，給他們生路。"----------蘇拉篇9章5節

安拉的使者呼叫阿里（Ali）說：往前去（戰鬥），不要觀望，直到安拉將勝利賜給你。「阿里按照命令做了一會兒、沒有觀望，然後停下來問：」安拉的使者，我要戰鬥到什麼時候？」先知說：「戰鬥到知道認定安拉是他們唯一的神、穆罕默德是他們的使者」「 ------Sahih Muslim 5917

"....Fartana和她的朋友是歌者，她們曾唱歌嘲諷使徒穆罕默德，所以命令殺死她們"-------Ibn Ishaq 819

接下來的例子中，穆罕默德突然從安拉那裡，得到的一個教導：強姦被俘虜的婦女們。

「安拉（願平安歸於他）的使者派遣軍隊到奧他斯（Awtas)參加侯奈因(Hunain)戰役，獲得勝利後他們俘虜了敵人。一些安拉使者的同伴，不願意和有夫之婦交合（ intercourse）,所以高貴的安拉，在&<古蘭經&>Sura 篇4章24節說：」除了俘虜之外，所有的結過婚的女人，你們不可以玷污。「

這件事說明穆罕默德是如此大膽，經文像帽子戲法一樣就這麼變了出來，支持強暴婦女；所有的一時興起，都可以被宣稱是來自上頭的啟示。穆罕默德深諳寧錄塞米勒米斯之哲學：屬靈的權威，帶來世俗的權威。

哪裡有撒旦，哪裡就有仇恨猶太人的教訓，這類教訓在伊斯蘭教尤其清晰而強烈。

」使者說：「殺死任何落入你手的猶太人」。於是，穆哈伊塞（Muhayyisa ）跳到猶太商人Ibn Sunayna的身上，並殺了他，Ibn Sunayna與他有社會/商業上往來。Huwayyisa是穆哈伊塞的長兄，當時還不是穆斯林，動手打了穆哈伊塞，並且說：「你這個神的敵人，是猶太人的財富養肥了你，你卻殺了他嗎？」穆哈伊塞回答說：「若那個命令我殺他的人，同樣命令我殺你，我會毫不猶豫地砍下你的頭。」這是Huwayyisa接受伊斯蘭教的開........Huwayyisa驚呼道：「以安拉發誓，一個能讓你到如此境界的信仰，是一個了不起的奇蹟！」於是他成為了穆斯林。------Ibn Ishaq 554

這裡，伊斯蘭教鼓動人們殺死猶太人的能力，讓穆哈伊塞的兄弟印象深刻。在穆斯林的社群中，這樣的行為依然存在-------若有人不再信伊斯蘭教，那麼他甚至會被父母或兄弟姐妹殺死。他們稱這為「仁慈的死刑」。上文的Huwayyisa因此相信了伊斯蘭教，雖然無法確定是否只是出於自衛本能。伊斯蘭教有漫長的強迫他人信伊斯蘭教的歷史，若不相信安拉，等待那人的就是死亡。

穆斯林被教導說，猶太人被全部消滅後救贖才會到來，因此他們不會停止對猶太人的戰爭：」穆斯林殺死猶太人後，末日才會到來。猶太人將藏在石頭和樹的後面。石頭和樹木也將呼叫說：噢，穆斯林，噢上帝的使者！有一個猶太人在我後面，來殺死他們." -----------Bukhari 4:176-177

上帝的先知以西結，曾經發預言說，將來某一個時候，阿拉伯國家會和俄羅斯人一起試圖消滅以色列。因為這個預言，穆斯林被驅動起來去消滅以色列，按照伊斯蘭教的說法，只有消滅猶太人，穆斯林的彌賽亞才會來。

千萬別相信穆斯林只是因為土地問題而與以色列發生矛盾。撒旦從一開始就要消滅猶太人，他把這個願望放進伊斯蘭教的核心，無論以色列人給阿拉伯人多少土地，他們都會向著那個目標----消滅以色列人而奔跑。穆斯林相信，他們必須殺死所有猶太人，否則伊斯蘭教就會被證明是錯誤的。

聯合國為解決爭端，要讓以色列人和巴勒斯坦人分享土地、建立兩個國家。--------"耶洗別的靈」的字典里，沒有「雙贏」二字，她的目標是要控制一切。伊斯蘭教的終極目標是擴張影響力、統領全球。伊斯蘭教的視野里，世界目前被分割為兩部分，伊斯蘭教的帳棚不信伊斯蘭教的帳棚，他們盼望全世界成為伊斯蘭教的世界，並為此努力。事實上，伊斯蘭「Islam」的意思是「服從/ 順從"-------全世界服從他們的月神安拉。安拉的另一個名字是巴力，巴力就是撒旦。伊斯蘭教認為世界和平，將在他們戰勝所謂的「異教徒「（infidel）後才到來。

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Allah

Muhammad was born into a culture where moon god worship was dominant. Furthermore, he was born into the Quraysh tribe, who were particularly devoted to the moon god. According to numerous inscriptions, the title of this moon god was al- ilah, which means "the deity or the god" meaning that he was the chief or high god among the gods. Al-ilah, the god, was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times.

Now this part may be slightly confusing. Until now we have seen that in the Babylonian system the sun is always presented as a male god and the moon presented as a female goddess. And yet here we find talk of a male moon god – not a moon goddess. This is because there were certain branches where the roles were reversed. The male divinity became the moon and female divinity became the sun. This form of the mysteries was particularly prevalent in Arabia and amongst the Saxons and Norsemen of Europe. This role reversal remained widespread around Arabia in particular long after its popularity had waned elsewhere.

Echoes of this lesser known form still exist today. For example, Cush, Nimrod』s father was worshipped as a god under the title Meni or Manai, which means 『The Numberer』. He is accredited under the Babylonian system with inventing arithmetic. Now such has been the influence of the Saxons and Norsemen in particular on Scotland that we have a New Year festival that still exists today called Hogmanay. This comes from Hog-Manai, which means 「The Feast of the Numberer」 who numbers the years. Another small example of how Babylon permeates our culture.

Anyway, that was a little detour. Muhammad』s father and uncle both had the name Allah incorporated into their own names. His father was called Abd-Allah. His uncle was called Obied-Allah. This echoes Babylonian practice of incorporating your god into your own name and illustrates the pre-eminence of the moon god cult in his time.

This fact answers the questions, "Why is Allah never defined in the Qur"an? Why did Muhammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was?" The answer is because they already did know who Allah was. He was their moon god. Muhammad wasn』t attempting to introduce the concept of a new god in the Qur』an; he was merely building on the one that already existed in the area. All Muhammad did was go one step further than his fellow pagan Arabs. While they believed that Allah, the moon god, was the greatest of all gods in a whole pantheon of gods, Muhammad said that Allah was not just the greatest god amongst many but that he was in fact the only god.

In effect he said, "Look, you already believe that the moon god Allah is the greatest of all gods. All I want you to do is to accept that the idea that he is the only god. I am not taking away the Allah you already worship. I am only taking away his wife and his daughters and all the other gods."

Here is a picture of an Allah idol recovered in Arabia. Note the crescent moon on his chest.

The pagan Arabs never accused Muhammad of preaching a different Allah to the one they already worshipped and archaeological evidence proves that he was one and the same. The Encyclopaedia of Religion says, 「Allah is a pre-Islamic name…corresponding to the Babylonian Bel.」 Allah is nothing more than Baal again with a new name. Muhammad attempted to have it both ways though. To the pagans he said that he still believed in the Moon-god Allah. To the Jews and the Christians, he said that Allah was their God too. In effect it was the same technique that Catholic bishops used to merge Christianity with paganism. Many Christians today have swallowed the lie that Allah is the same as the Christian God when he is in fact Baal.

Fortunately, Jews and Christians of that time recognised Muhammad』s deceptive ideas and rejected Allah as a false god. Of course this angered Satan no end – and by consequence it angered his puppet Muhammad no end. And we know that when Plan A, manipulation and flattery, fails with Satan, he quickly resorts to Plan B, intimidation and persecution.

We perhaps never see this more clearly than in the relationship Muhammad had with the Jews. The Qur』an has a distinct split personality that correlate to two periods in Muhammad』s life. At the start of his life, in Mecca, he was relatively obscure and had no particular type of influence. He was in a position of weakness. In the second part of his life he moved to Medina as a wealthy and powerful warlord. There he was in a position of power.

All the earlier writings from his time in Mecca are generally peaceful. This was the period when Muhammad was in a position of weakness trying to convince the local Jews that he was a prophet of their God. The Plan A years. All the later writings from his time in Medina, after he had risen to a position of wealth and power, are full of hate and anger towards the Jews who had rejected him. These are the Plan B years. He started calling for their slaughter and waged war against them – along with anyone else who rejected him or his message.

Now it』s important to understand that in Islam there is a principle of abrogation. This simply means that wherever there is a contradiction between verses, and the Qu』ran contradicts itself a fair amount, the later one cancels out the earlier one. Since the violent, warring verses are the later ones from his time in Medina, they cancel out the earlier peaceful ones from his time in Mecca. This has been a great tool of deception for Muslims as whenever they are challenged about the violent fruits of their religion, they point to the peaceful Mecca verses. In ignorance, the average person takes them at their word completely unaware that those words are effectively null and void under the principle of abrogation. They have been replaced by later commands to slaughter all non-believers and conquer the world.

It is Muhammad』s words and actions from the Medina years that fuel Islam』s never-ending hatred towards the Jews and the problems in the Middle East. It is the words and actions of Muhammad in the Medina years that encourages and condones all forms of terrorism, lying, deceit, violence, murder of non- believers, oppression and domination as a service to Allah. Islamic terrorists are not acting contrary to the example of Muhammad, their prophet; they are acting in perfect harmony with his own actions 1400 years ago. The bible says that, 「you shall know a tree by the fruit it bears.」 The entire history of Islam has been littered with this type of violence and when we look at the life of Muhammad in any detail we will discover why. It produces bad fruit because it was a bad tree with its roots in the kingdom of darkness. The following are the recorded words and deeds of Muhammad:

「Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.」 - (Ibn Ishaq 992)

「…fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, then open the way for them.」 – Sura 9:5

Allah"s Messenger called Ali [and said]: 「Proceed on and do not look about until Allah grants you victory,」 and Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: 「Allah"s Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?」 Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: 」Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger…」 (Sahih Muslim 5917)

「…two singing-girls Fartana and her friend who used to sing satirical songs about the apostle [Muhammad], so he ordered that they should be killed…」 (Ibn Ishaq 819)

In the following example we see Muhammad suddenly and conveniently receive a message from Allah to rape captured women.

「The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.

Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur』anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150)

This event shows a particular audacity; permitting rape at the drop of a hat simply by conjuring a verse from Allah to support it. Any whim or fancy that took him could be acted upon if he claimed he was doing it under divine authority or instruction. Muhammad understood what Nimrod and Semiramis understood – spiritual authority gives temporal authority.

Wherever Satan is involved there is often a tell-tale hatred for the Jews and this comes through loud and clear in Islam.

The apostle said, 「Kill any Jew that falls into your power.」 Thereupon Muhayyisa lepat upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time, though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jew] Huwayyisa began to beat him, saying, 「You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?」 Muhayyisa answered, 「Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.」 This was the beginning of Huwayyisa』s acceptance of Islam… [Huwayyisa] replied exclaimed, 「By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvelous!」 and he became a Muslim. (Ibn Ishaq 554)

Here, the unbelieving brother was seemingly impressed with Islam』s ability to influence people to kill Jews and family members. This practice continues to this day in the Muslim community. Parents will kill children and brothers will kill siblings who leave Islam and call it a mercy-killing. The brother in this instance converted on the spot – although we can』t be sure he didn』t do it out of self-preservation. Islam has a long history of forced conversions where the alternative is death.

Muslims have even been taught that their redemption will not come until all Jews have been destroyed and therefore they will not stop fighting against them until they have reached this end.

"The last hour won"t come before the Muslims would fight the Jews, and the Muslims will kill them. So Jews would hide behind rocks and trees. Then the rocks and trees would call, "Oh, Muslim. Oh, Servant of God. There is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him."" - Bukhari 4:176-177

The prophet Ezekiel reports a time when Arab nations will team up with Russia to attempt to wipe out Israel. They will be driven to do this partly because of this prophecy. If the Jews aren』t wiped out, according to Islam, their false messiah can』t come. Do not be misled by claims of Muslims that their gripe with Israel is about land. Satan wants the Jews destroyed as he has done from the beginning of time. He has hardwired this desire into the core of Islam through Muhammad and they will work towards that end no matter how much land Israel gives them.

Muslims believe they must kill all Jews or their religion has been proved to be false. It』s that simple.

The United Nations are attempting to create a two state solution where Jews and 『Palestinians』 share the land but we know from our studies of the character of the Satanic Jezebel spirit that it will not be content to share control of anything. It will have no equals. The goal of Islam is to extend its influence until it rules the entire world. In Islam the world is currently divided into two; the house of Islam and the house of the unbeliever. They foresee a day when the whole earth will become Islamic and work continuously towards this end. The name 「Islam」 actually means 「submission」 and this refers to the whole world submitting to the rule of the pagan moon god, Allah. Allah being another name for Baal, and Baal being Satan. They believe that world peace will only come when they have triumphed over all the so-called infidel.

惡意地揣測一下，這位穆斯林對上帝的了解不會比大多數無神論者更多；就好像我也非常不了解古蘭經里的安拉一樣

人的認知決定了他的立場。舉例來說，我認知到上帝的全能，因而我的立場是『有上帝論者』（基督徒），人們也會覺得我說話是「基督徒的說話方式」；而因為我對於伊斯蘭的認知不足，因而我的立場是「無安拉者」。這句話等價於，在安拉的體系里，我就是個無神論者，因為我覺得他們的神是不存在的，他們的理論都是錯誤的，都是編造的。

上面是拿我自己做例子；題主把我換成那個MSL，把上帝和安拉互換一下就成了你問題里的情況。

謝邀，噗，連Allah都會拼錯的朋友，還想偽裝成科普資料當洗腦機器啊。

還「geez」。那我也geeeez好了

低端穆黑們加油咯。^^ source太差，差評哦。