美國程序員比中國程序員工資高嗎？

01-01

可以分4種情況
1：美國程序員在中國時
2：中國程序員在美國時
3：各在各的國家時
4：各在對方的國家時

外加一條：就是同等水平的程序員，在美利堅的矽谷和在國內的北上廣哪個活的更優雅，更輕鬆。在美利堅年薪20萬刀和在北上廣20萬軟妹幣差別有多大？

按匯率(~6x)折算高，按購買力(~3x)折算高不到哪裡去（單從數額上比較）。日常生活消費，你會覺得美金耐花，solid。東西的質量好，服務的質量好，solid。

在中心城市買房租房，沒有多大差別。但美國選擇多，你不用擠破頭皮，如果你想搬到安靜的小城市或者郊區，照樣可以買到物美價廉的房子。中國的遷徙成本高，實際上並沒有多少選擇。

買一輛車對現在城市裡的中國人也夠不成多大壓力，差別也不大，但開車心裡不會很堵，solid。

美國人工費用（我的洗碗機修過一次$280，買這個洗碗機才600不到），子女教育費用和大病費用很昂貴，價格也是高得很solid。如果你在美國以一個中國屌絲的方式生活（像我一樣），你很容易存錢。

在美國做一個普通人，是物美價廉的生活。

我給你整理了一些美國new grad software engineer fulltime position的薪資

註：單位為$美元。由於每個人薪資都是不一樣的，以下數據僅供參考。

1.seattle 地區

Amazon

Location: Seattle
Annual based salary: 103 k
Signing Bonus: 50 k
Relocation: 10 k
Stocks: 65 k (For 4 year vest, 5% 1st year, 15 2nd year, 40 3rd year, 40 4th year)

Microsoft

Location: Seattle
Annual based salary: 105 k
Signing Bonus: 15 k
Relocation: 0 k
Stocks: 120 k (For 3.5 year vest, 25% 6 month, 18 month,30 month, 42 month)

Facebook

Location: Seattle
Annual based salary: 107 k
Signing Bonus: 100 k
Relocation: 0 k
Stocks: 150 k (4 years, 1 year cliff)

Qualtrics

Location: Seattle
Annual based salary: 105 k
Signing Bonus: 12 k
Relocation: 0 k
Stocks: 5 k units

Tableau

Location: Seattle
Annual based salary: 100 k
Signing Bonus: 5 k
Relocation: 0 k
Stocks: 3.2k units (4 years, 1 year cliff)

Nordstrom

Location: Seattle
Annual based salary: 90 k
Signing Bonus: 0 k
Relocation: 0 k
Stocks: 0

Pariveda Solutions

Location: Seattle
Annual based salary: 73 k
Signing Bonus: 0 k
Relocation: 0 k
Stocks: 0

2.Bay Area

Affirm

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 125 k
Signing Bonus: 5k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 30 k (4 years vesting schedule with 1 year cliff)

Airbnb

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 125k
Signing Bonus: 20k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation:
Stocks: 200k

Amazon

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 103k
Signing Bonus: 18k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation:
Stocks: 65k(4 years vesting)

Asana

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Data Scientist
Annual based salary: 115k
Signing Bonus: 0
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 110k

FinTech

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 115k
Signing Bonus: 0
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 75k(4 years with 1 year cliff)

IBM

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Entry Level Software Engineer(Full Time )
Annual based salary: 100k
Signing Bonus: 8k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 0

Redfin

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 115k
Signing Bonus: 15k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 60k( 4 years vesting schedule with 1 year cliff)

Salesforce

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 118k
Signing Bonus: 25k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 75k(4years)

Slack

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 115k
Signing Bonus: 0
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 100k(4 years with 1 year cliff)

Twitter

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 120k
Signing Bonus: 18k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 8k

Uber

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 110k
Signing Bonus: 37k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 150k(4 years vesting for 1 year cliff)

Yelp

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 110k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 120k(4 years, 25% after first year and 1/16 each quarter after)

Zynga

Location: San Francisco, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 110k
Signing Bonus: 20k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 25k(4 years vesting schedule with 1 year cliff)

Google

Location: Mountain View, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 120k
Signing Bonus: 20k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 135k(4years)

LinkedIn

1.Location: Mountain View, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 120k
Signing Bonus: 20k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation:
Stocks: 150k
2.Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 120k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation:
Stocks: 150k(Sunnyvale, CA)

Intuit

Location: Mountain View, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 120k
Signing Bonus: 7.5k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 30k(3years)

Facebook

Location: Menlo Park, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 115k
Signing Bonus: 40k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 160k(4 years with 1 year cliff)

Apple

Location: Cupertino, CA
Position：Full Time Hardware Engineer
Annual based salary: 106k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 40k(4 years w/ 1 year cliff)

Sumo Logic

Location: Redwood City, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 115k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 15k(4 years, 1 year cliff)

Electronic Arts

Location: Redwood City, CA
Position：Junior Project Manager
Annual based salary: 76k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 126k

Box

Location: Redwood City, CA
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 125k
Signing Bonus: 0
Intern Conversion：yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 6.5k(4 years vesting schedule with 1 year cliff)

3. New York

Ernst and Young

Location: New York
Position：Full Time Technical Consultant
Annual based salary: 75 k
Signing Bonus: 5k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 0

Facebook

Location: New York
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 107 k
Signing Bonus: 40k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 160(4 years vesting schedule)

Goldman Sachs

Location: New York
Position：Full Time Strategist
Annual based salary: 85 k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 0

Google

Location: New York
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 112 k
Signing Bonus: 25k
Intern Conversion：Yes
Relocation: 0
Stocks:135k(4 years, 1 year cliff)

Morgan Stanley

Location: New York
Position：Full Time Business Analyst
Annual based salary: 85 k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 0

Unicorn

Location: New York
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 110k
Signing Bonus: 10k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 2.3k

4.Boston

Amazon Robotics

Location: Boston
Position：Full Time SDE
Annual based salary: 100k
Signing Bonus:19 k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 65k

Carbonite

Location: Boston
Position：Full Time Software Developer
Annual based salary: 98k
Signing Bonus: 2.5k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 10k

Network Security Company

Location: Boston
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 85k
Signing Bonus: 5k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 1.5k

VMWare

Location: Boston
Position：Member of Technical Staff Full Time
Annual based salary: 95k
Signing Bonus: 7.5k
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 30k(4years)

Wayfair

Location: Boston
Position：Full Time Software Engineer
Annual based salary: 90k
Signing Bonus: 0
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 0

Wayfair

Location: Boston
Position：Internal Consulting Analyst for Operations Product Innovation Full Time
Annual based salary: 60k
Signing Bonus:0
Intern Conversion：No
Relocation: 0
Stocks: 0

以上是我自己總結的內容，你可以考慮一下，如有不正確的地方，請指正！

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美國掙得多但是花的也多。 @vczh 的估計基本屬實。平均而言，如果要達到和國內相同的生活階層，在美國的薪水換算成人民幣應當是國內的3-4倍才行。

我跳來美帝之後，工資轉成人民幣大概多了一倍。兩邊一樣都沒有買房子，一樣租的一百多平方的非house，一樣住的城鄉結合部，美帝就多了個車貸。結果北京怎麼揮霍都能省下一半少一點，在美帝全都花光了。所以按照這種想法來看的話，美帝20萬刀當然比天朝20萬刀要爽1.5-2倍。

後來我總結了一下，主要是在美帝沒機會放棄身體健康和生活質量來買到一些很爛的東西，所以就覺得什麼都貴了。

當然了，天朝進口美帝的東西在美帝當然都是很便宜的，譬如汽車啦，譬如電腦配件啦。

題主的問題有個很大的問題。在美國拿20萬刀年薪的人在國內至少可以拿到50～100萬年薪，而不是區區20萬年薪。

在美國扣掉房租和稅（20萬年薪稅很高，比國內要高了），剩下來的錢和國內的生活水平差不了多少，考慮到車子和房子都便宜點，所以在美國稍微好一點點。但是每年回國探親的機票和花在路上的時間精力，以及倒騰身份帶來的麻煩來會一抵扣，好處不那麼明顯了。

說個段子，前年美帝那邊矽谷某金牌碼農被查出上班時間80%在上網衝浪逛亞馬遜，天天遲到早退不加班，結果代碼寫的又快又好，最後發現他拿出月薪的三分之一在中國找了個外包團隊，所有工作都是中國碼農完成，而他只要發發郵件就行，這個是真事。

算乘上匯率的絕對值的話，肯定高。矽谷平均起步一年100k，對應RMB就是620k，國內除極個別情況外是不可能給到這樣的起薪的，這還是在沒考慮期權等補助的情況下。P.S.考慮到這邊加班情況遠沒有國內嚴重的情況下，時薪會更高。

具體到生活中，矽谷的個稅比國內重，並且吃住開銷都很大，按購買力算USD比RMB差不多1:2到1:3左右。但是在電子產品、奢侈品以及開車等方面，USD往往比RMB要值錢得多，基本是1:6到1:10甚至更多。直觀點說，這邊的初級程序員一個月稅後可以買10台iPhone，一年稅後可以買台70～80k的卡宴或者X5。如果按差價最大的美式跑車/肌肉車來算，USD比RMB甚至可以破1:20。

但是如果考慮上房價的話就是另一個故事了。。。一室一廳40～60平租金2000刀一個月起，舊金山平均房租為3000多刀一個月，啥概念？稅後收入快一半都得貢獻給房東和地主。。。買房的話1個Million都只能是中位數左右的水平（還不能是好區），像Menlo Park、Palo Alto這些地方3b以上的SFH中位數直接破2M了。。。作為碼農如果沒有運氣好趕上startup IPO這樣的好事的話，也只能是望房興嘆。在這點上，USD跟RMB的購買力就跟匯率差不多了。

樓上的都只考慮車，但是，各位考慮過租房子和買房子嘛！！！租房在mountainview什麼的，據我在zillow上看到的基本上都在2400+美元，one bedroom啊，稍微好一點的就3000美元了，一年36000美元沒有了。。。還有買房。。。加州的房子基本都要1M的才能買到3卧室的，很多地方四五個卧室的需要1.5M以上。。。話說加州買車稅略高，油價太高。。。當然油價不是問題。。。

美國那邊起步高但後面漲得慢。國內起步低上漲空間大。到一定級別後兩邊收入是差不多的，比如我們這裡principle band之後就基本對齊了。

我感覺大家都忘了美帝的醫療成本了。美帝看個小病，光排隊就幾個月去了。帝都再怎麼擠破頭，去北醫三院之類的還是能掛到號，好不。

還有就是爹媽的醫療怎麼辦？除非你入籍了，要不然爹媽的醫療根本無法解決，天價帳單阿。

說到孩子，美國的學區房，也不比帝都的便宜阿。

當然美國的其他物價便宜令人髮指，感覺是全世界發達國家中最低的。

為什麼我看完後發現國內挺好。。。

看那些去了美國的高手的回國率就知道了，別聽他們怎麼說。

肯定比中國的高，但是如果你是在矽谷，生活成本也比中國的高

矽谷 $200k 稅後大概 $120k。相當於每個月 $10k。交去房租還有 $7k。再除去基本生活開銷也就剩下 $4~5k。基本上只能看房興嘆了。

買個蘭博基尼也不能天天住裡面是吧。蘭博基尼才多少錢。

這個問題我前兩天正好考慮過，看一下北加州兩年前初級程序猿的平均年薪，單位是刀

直觀一點

這輛 Mclaren570s 美利堅售價18W$,天朝魔都車展前幾天開售255W，也就是說我一個初級程序員在矽谷敲兩年代碼的錢就能買一輛還有剩餘，在天朝就呵呵噠了

北京程序員好像沒戶口......

粗略算了一下，時薪大概差3倍起。

以國內Leader programmer vs 美國Junior programmer為例，

國內Leader月薪約25000，這邊創業公司每天工作11小時，其他額外加班不算的情況下，時薪113

美國程序猿以100k年薪來算，約600000rmb，每月50000rmb，工作時間按照周40小時，時薪312。

再加上購買力差距，生活水平上差距還是蠻大的。

你看到單位了嗎。。。

bay area, 稅後5k多support兩個人，每月剩1.5k－2k的路過。不會省錢，就不要說什麼攢錢了－＝。生活大概是：三餐兩餐在家，周六固定mall里逛逛吃吃。marina買菜的話，一周兩個人就80-90usd，房租1700total，雜費兩個人500左右，車費500左右。其他支出也在500內。大家真的要好好學會怎麼省錢。

能按時薪算讓我們看看差距么？