美國人是不是不能接受用人類糞便作為農業肥料？

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屎到淋頭【慎入！史上最噁心的紀錄片】
科普節目里特意提到中國人用屎作為肥料種地。
西方人古代似乎是用動物糞的，屎只能花錢僱人倒掉。這些年有機肥料才開始作為一種裝B的東西流行。

目前第一名的答案還是有點細節問題的。
不過責任在最初發表New York Poop Train的RadioLab。
Poop Train - Radiolab

紐約市確實是從1992年7月1日起禁止向海／河裡排放糞便後，開始將經處理的人類糞便作為肥料運往其他州使用，其他州也確實是因為是紐約州的糞所以有所抵觸。

不過從我找到的報導來看，唯一的問題是，至少最初的接收方不是Colorado，而是Texas的一個小鎮，Sierra Blanca，從當年7月禁令一開始執行就開始接收了。來源是The New York Times，夠權威了吧。
另外，他們也是被迫接受的。此時Texas州政府已將小鎮外的某地區作為聯邦授權的低放射性物質的廢棄點，大概是因為這個，所以沒有舉行任何正式聽證會就讓此地接收來自紐約的人糞便堆肥，因為當地比較貧窮，很難反彈。

以下是來自The New York Times的報道，發表時間是1993年1月25日，原作者是ROBERTO SURO。
鏈接：http://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/25/nyregion/texas-town-and-fertilizer-from-that-city.html

由於紐約時報的網站需翻牆訪問，我將原文轉貼過來。
Texas Town and Fertilizer From That City

A tiny yellow engine and 18 bright red railroad cars stand out sharply as they trundle past dark creosote bushes and the occasional sotol plant, bringing another load of treated sewage from New York City to the high desert of West Texas.

Even such a brightly colored little train seems a mere detail in a landscape vast enough that one can stand in the sun and watch a rainstorm miles away. But, depending on who is doing the talking, the sludge now arriving almost daily is either going to make the desert bloom or render it a dead zone.

Since July, trains have been arriving at a ranch here, some 85 miles east of El Paso, bringing an average of 225 tons a day of treated human waste that New York used to dump at sea until that was prohibited last July 1. From the start the project pitted neighbor against neighbor with small-town ferocity. Coloring all the arguments was a sense that the wastes were arriving from a metropolis so alien and far away that it might as well be from another planet.

Sierra Blanca is the county seat of Hudspeth County, which, while almost the size of Connecticut, has a population of just 2,900, a crowd that would not even fill the Metropolitan Opera House at Lincoln Center. Nearly 39 percent of the people here live in poverty, and two-thirds are of Hispanic origin, according to the census. More Than Desert and Dust

Sitting on a tattered stool in his general store, Bill Addington, leader of the opposition, said, "The Northeast views this whole region as nothing but desert and dust and a few sleepy Mexicans who don"t care."

At a gasoline station a few hundred feet away, at what is almost the other end of town, the proprietor, H. A. (Speedy) Virdell Jr., the most vocal supporter of the sludge"s importation, said: "If it had been coming from Dallas or Houston, no problem, it would have come in here with flying colors. But New York, with all that industry and all the different people who live in that community from all around the world, that"s something else."

The source of the sludge was just one provocation. For more than a decade the Texas government has been searching for a place to put a federally mandated low-level radioactive waste depository. It settled on a spot just outside Sierra Blanca last February. That, plus the way the sludge project was handled -- no formal hearings were held -- and its size -- up to 94,369 acres, more than six times the size of Manhattan -- provoked fears like Mr. Addington"s: "We"ve become a designated dumping ground for all the stuff no one else wants because we don"t have enough people or money to fight back."

Photos: Since July, trains have been arriving in Sierra Blanca, Tex., some 85 miles east of El Paso, bringing a daily average of 225 tons of treated human waste that New York used to dump at sea until it was forbidden in July; "The Northeast views this whole region as nothing but desert and dust and a few sleepy Mexicans who don"t care," said Bill Addington, the leader of the opposition to the dumping. (Photographs by Bruce Berman for The New York Times) Map or Texas shows location of Sierra Blanca.

(註：那張照片死活載入不了)

轉貼，純看個樂，不保證真偽

在美國我們都用金坷垃

我用最垃圾的百度都能搜到這個鏈接
紐約的屎去了哪裡？
給第一名點贊的得多懶？
另外，查了下他們的計量單位蒲式耳，一蒲式耳27.216公斤，那麼畝產66蒲式耳就相當於畝產1600+公斤，也就是3000+斤，然後我又查了個資料
河南今年小麥畝產最高記錄――700.75公斤
哇，壯哉我大美利堅，人類的希望，世界的燈塔！

那麼……除了種地，人的屎到底能幹嘛用呢？（認真臉）
……無責任轉發很久以前微博 @英國那些事兒上看到的一個故事╮(╯_╰)╭

Sina Visitor System

談談單位，1蒲式耳/英畝（1bu/ac）如果農作物是小麥，約等於67.25公斤/公頃（67.25kg/ha）。來源：http://www.extension.iastate.edu/agdm/wholefarm/pdf/c6-80.pdf 艾奧瓦州立大學的來源。

照此換算，啊，忘記說，1公頃=15畝，這是1930年民國政府開始實行的，中華人民共和國沿用的。維基上查來的。所以，對於小麥，66bu/ac=4438.5kg/ha=295.9kg/畝=591.8斤/畝。這樣畝產大約600斤小麥，算來就正常了。

美國人的觀念里，糞便=骯髒。骯髒的東西怎麼能澆到食物上去？我還記得很久以前有一集蝙蝠俠的動漫，芭芭拉（應該是）用胡蘿蔔（沒有用過！而且洗乾淨了！）招待羅賓，說話中提到了這個胡蘿蔔是以蝙蝠糞做肥料的，羅賓當時就把胡蘿蔔吐了。這個屬於文化認知與我們國家的差異。
貌似歐洲古代農業很遲才開始對土地施肥，對於糞便做肥料的接受程度極低。並且農民在古代的地位極低並且人數相對少（這一點和我們國家很不一樣），當時歐洲的大多數人是接觸不到也不清楚農業生產的過程的，並不會想到糧食蔬菜在出土前已經被糞便澆了一頭。這種情況（大多數人不清楚農業生產過程）基本是一直延續到現在，並且現代關於肥料的宣傳內容主要是化肥，所以當他們知道中國人使用糞便施肥就會覺得非常噁心。
以下為吐槽：
其實他們根本不管糧食蔬菜是用什麼肥料，化肥也好，有機肥料也好，只要他們不知道生產過程，根本就不會有什麼噁心的感覺。惡意地想一下：咱們國家的各種醬料在美國賣得那麼好，要是他們知道這些玩意兒的生產過程（《舌尖上的中國》第二季里有展示過），會不會當即就把買回家的老乾媽給扔掉啊？ XD

Management of soil fertility has been the preoccupation of farmers for thousands of years. Egyptians, Romans, Babylonians, and early Germans all are recorded as using minerals and or manure to enhance the productivity of their farms

摘自wikipedia Fertilizer

不過沒有提到是什麼manure。
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另外貼一張《回到未來》里的糞肥

歐洲人和科學家認為人類糞便攜帶的病原非常危險，沒有被處理過的糞便被認為容易將病原傳遞給人和食物。

大概中國人強調吃熟食也和這有關（消毒滅菌）？

20世紀初美國教授還來中國取經寫下了東亞的永續農業，不知學去了沒有

上面那麼多回答，補充一句國產糞肥是在化糞池裡發酵過的，不是直接澆糞啊。並且現在主力是化肥，糞肥很少人用

難道不是因為地廣人稀？

不是不能。。。。而是人家科技發達到使用科學的肥料配比，，，沒興趣用這種

「小日本，真不傻，金坷垃給了他，對霉國危害大。」