為什麼相比於索粉,軟粉和任飯的關係更和諧?

無論是貼吧微博還是知乎的主機圈,關於任系平台的問題上,有人黑任天堂總是被指責為索x;同樣,關於索系平台上有人黑索尼同樣會被指責為任x。
這是因為刻板印象潛意識裡認為對方就是索x/任x呢還是因為軟粉確實很少與其他人發生摩擦呢?


因為xbox one吧 和switch吧吧主都是同一人


正常玩家不分圈子
傻()跟誰都不和諧


說白了吧,似乎索飯比起另外兩家粉絲更加好戰。

當然,肯定不少索粉會不樂意,不過,你們思考一下。

遊戲機方面,索粉戰任軟蒸手游

耳機方面跟森海懟了這麼多年

手機方面自稱安卓貴族,看不起各種手機

電視又跟三棒子打的不可開交

鏡頭上天天diss尼康也是家常便飯

只要是索尼涉及的數碼類領域,索飯都能跟友商的粉絲戰起來。這一點確實很神奇。

索尼其實還有保險業務,希望哪天進軍中國市場,等著索飯拳打平安 腳踢人壽

我發現知乎的索粉特別喜歡提上世代的事兒。總說現在攻擊索粉是因為這世代索尼優勢。上世代任天堂優勢是索飯受欺負?蛤?那麼婦孺機是誰發明的?滿屏遊戲性是誰整天逼逼的?NDS 3DS 都掉打同期索尼掌機,按理說任天堂優勢,這倆機子被索飯黑的還少?

PS:看了md2的回復,我是明白知乎了,只要是大V胡說八道都能一堆贊。

因為之前我不幸的指出了md2回答中的多處錯誤而幸運的被他拉黑,只能在這裡反對這位大V了。

【廠商太強了,難免會有一些狗仗人勢的傢伙跑來,對其他派的人冷嘲熱諷。把現在索尼GK的邪惡程度加強10倍,差不多就是90年代日本任飯的嘴臉了,好在那時候沒有互聯網,有資格發聲的都是頂級玩家和業內人士,相對還算節制,如果當時有互聯網,那日本遊戲圈絕對會變成一個大糞坑。】

在那個「沒有互聯網」的年代,md2是怎麼了解到當時日本任飯的嘴臉的?而且2ch里也沒有見過那個年代任飯的「醜陋」行徑的相關討論。


和平的唯一方法就是幾方勢力有了共同的敵人,ps玩家和盒子玩家聯手的時候也不是沒有,只不過當時他們都被歸到了主機玩家的陣營里,很顯然對面是pc玩家。如果遇到手遊玩家時,主機和pc玩家又會結盟。所謂遊戲鄙視鏈就是這麼神奇。當一方被懟的差不多了,大家該摸魚的摸魚,該算舊賬的算舊賬,該撕逼的撕逼,大概就是這樣。你說有沒有置身度外的玩家?當然有了,他們就是全平台黨(笑)


因為索x喜歡在任天堂和微軟的新聞下面找存在感。
而且索尼有專業的GK帶節奏的先例。

事實依據:自己去任意視頻網站評論區(例如b站),任意主機遊戲論壇(例如某星空),任意主機遊戲app(例如二柄)看。只要不是瞎子都能看出來。


索尼粉絲一向以激進著稱,和他有激烈矛盾的除了任粉,軟粉,steamer
包括但不限於花粉,三星粉,果粉,米粉,佳能粉,萊卡粉,尼康粉,蔡司粉,Red粉,夏普粉,日立粉,愛普生粉,明基粉,宏基粉,奧圖碼粉,理光粉,哈粉,bose粉,beats粉,還有好萊塢除索尼影業外粉
到處刷索尼大法好,說的好,我選擇索尼的梗,
我在其他的電視評測里幾乎每次都能看到,而且作為一個誠摯的steam玩家,部分日式遊戲登陸pc也能看見說:垃圾遊戲登陸pc祝暴死/又吃我們早吃過的冷飯了/登陸pc等破解?
去年買相機看看網路評測也能看到。
今年換電視還有垃圾面板,不及索尼
與索尼有競爭的宣傳視頻很多就有有這類引戰的,感覺有水軍,不然就是索狗真的噁心


因為有Xbox One/NS的玩家大多有PS4,反之?呵呵

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就我個人認為的話:

一個真正的玩家,絕對不會做出的一件事就是:只買一台主機,然後看著別家主機哪裡不好或者哪裡好,就酸或者噴;真正的玩家是看到別家平台哪裡好,然後把別家平台的機子和遊戲買來,至少也要體驗一下,實事求是的進行評判。

即使真的囊中羞澀也沒關係,買不了的情況下至少不要亂噴,連葡萄都沒吃過你怎麼知道酸不酸??

但是比較有意思的是,很多索gou(強調:注意索gou與索粉的區別)根本就沒有別家平台的設備,僅僅只是為了自己的所謂「信仰」,就對別家平台的玩家狂噴

——那麼問題來了,你為什麼會覺得為什麼相比索粉,任飯和軟粉的關係更和諧?

因為就是那麼幾隻老鼠害了一鍋湯。

我是不相信所有索粉都是對其他平台的玩家抱有敵意的。相反我更願意相信大多數索粉都是理智的,他們自己只是為了玩遊戲而選擇了PS3/4,而非為了自己所謂"信仰「就買那麼幾個獨佔,然後吹上天。

被商業公司當槍使了還不知道,這是最可笑的。坐井觀天的青蛙永遠不知道天空有多麼廣袤。

至於索尼官方的GK行為,不做評論。

真心想玩遊戲,就不要去參合什麼陣營之類的。這群人都是不玩遊戲閑得蛋疼


實際上不止天朝,某群體在全世界範圍內是人人喊打的,不信可以看看這篇destrucoid在PS3時期的黑某群體文,由於年代久遠翻譯原本是誰已不可考,本來只想剪貼,結果發現全文全是舉例,根本沒有可剪內容,故放出全文:

Are you ever at a party or similar social gathering, and your group of friends is joined by that one guy? Nobody likes him, but everybody seems to know who he is. Somebody invited him, but not one of your friends will own up to it. He"s obnoxious, he"s annoying, he"s oblivious to the sour atmosphere he inspires, and the worst part of it is ... nobody has the balls to tell him he"s not welcome.


你是否有過這種經驗:在一個party或者是類似的社交場合突然來了這麼一個傢伙闖進你和朋友的小圈圈裡 沒人喜歡他,但所有人都知道這傢伙是誰。某個渾蛋邀請這傢伙來這個party,但你朋友當中沒人敢承認是他作的好事。這傢伙既可惡又煩人,渾然不覺自身散發出的酸臭味。最糟糕的事沒人夠帶種敢請他離開。

That"s pretty much how I feel about Sony fanboys.

這差不多就是我對索狗的印象

You see, Sony fanboys are the worst ones. Don"t get me wrong -- Nintendo fanboys, Microsoft fanboys and PC fanboys each have their irritating quirks and infuriating mannerisms, but the Sony fans truly are the worst of a bad lot. In a barrel full of rotten apples, they are the most putrid, festering, blackened pools of mulch at the bottom. Everybody knows this, but like that one "friend" at the party who everybody is too polite to shun, nobody has dared to tell Sony fanboys that they are truly the pariahs of society and need to stop hanging out with the rest of us.

聽著,索飯是最差的那一種。別誤會,任飯、軟飯、PC飯都有討人厭的行為舉止。但索飯真的是所有種類中最惡劣的那一種 在一桶爛蘋果當中,他們會是最臭、最噁心,活像池底爛泥的那一類。
大家都知道這件事,但就像party里的那傢伙一樣,基於禮貌,沒人會主動上前告訴索飯們:你這賤民,給我滾出我們的視線範圍!

Fortunately, that"s why I"m here. Read on as I present my case, and tell Sony fanboys to get the Hell out of our party.

這就是我寫這篇文的原因,繼續往下讀我的經驗,以告訴索飯們滾出我們的party

Rational people who read my work will understand that I criticize Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo with no real preference or "bias." If one of those publishers screws up, I give them the verbal dressing down they deserve. All three of the major platform holders have, at one time or another, been criticized by yours truly. In fact, if you"re keeping score, you"ll notice that I"m probably more spiteful to Microsoft, since I find their actions the most shameless and despicable, while with Sony it"s more frustration and pity.

有理性而且之前讀過我之前的文章的人應該知道我一向是不帶偏好或偏見地批判索尼、微軟和任天堂。當有廠商搞砸的時候,我會給他們應得的低評,而那三間主要的平台商偶爾都會被敝人在下我批評。事實上,如果你有印象你可能還會發現我還比較討厭微軟,因為我覺得微軟的行為最無恥卑鄙。講起我對索尼的感覺,其實還比較接近挫折與同情。

However, if you listen to the regular crop of Sony loyalists that sometimes invade Destructoid"s comment section, you"d think that I was Sony"s worst enemy, driven by an unquenchable thirst for the destruction of the PlayStation brand and everybody associated with it. I have often asked myself: Why is it that criticisms of Nintendo and Microsoft do not get met with such hostility? Why do I get called "biased" against Nintendo and Microsoft far less than I do with Sony?

只是,如果你們看過那些忠心索飯在本站的討論區拚命洗板說的那些特定屁話,你們可能會被他們誤導,認為我是索尼最頭大的宿敵,極力試圖摧毀索尼這個品牌以及所有相關的人。我曾經問我自己,為什麼當我批評微軟或任天堂的時候,從來不曾感受到來自微軟或任天堂支持者如同索飯對我發出的那種程度的敵意?
為什麼我被索飯批評為〔偏袒〕的頻率遠高於微軟或任天堂支持者?

There is only one answer: The Sony Defense Force is by far the most aggressive, the most obnoxious and, of course, the most defensive. Let"s look at some evidence.

原因只有一個:SDF(索尼親慰隊)無疑是史上最具侵略性,最可惡,也當然最護主的一票忠犬,咱們來瞧瞧一些證據。

Third-party exclusivity has been one of the big battlegrounds of this generation. As exclusives outside of first and second party studios become more rare, such elusive gems as Metal Gear Solid and Mass Effect have become more precious than water in a desert. Naturally, the arguments over who has the best exclusives and which games are going multiplatform has been a hot-button issue among gamers.

第三廠獨佔作品一直是這一世代最大的戰場。隨著第三廠獨佔作品的式微像MGS和ME這類獨佔遊戲便變得比沙漠甘泉還要珍貴。自然地,〔哪個平台有最棒的獨佔作品〕以及〔哪個獨佔要跨了〕就成了玩家之間的熱門話題。

So, what happens when a previously exclusive game goes multiplatform? Well, if you"re a real gamer who gives a shit about a quality game series, you"ll be happy that the game is going to be enjoyed by a potentially wider audience. If you"re a Sony fanboy, however, you"ll form a petition and get incredibly upset like a little bitch.

然後呢,當一個本來是獨佔的作品要跨的時候會怎樣?噢,如果你是個真正在乎優良系列作的真玩家,你應該會因為遊戲可以被更大的客群欣賞而開心。但如果你是只索飯,你就會搞個杯葛連署 像個賤娘們一樣灑潑。

Devil May Cry 4 is a perfect example. Originally a PS3 exclusive, Capcom made the wise decision to put the game on the XBox 360 as well, and fans were furious. Sony loyalists famously boycotted the game and launched a petition, begging Capcom not to betray them. One fan asked the publisher directly, "What are you thinking, Capcom?" The petition still exists, with 12345 signatures attached.

惡魔獵人4就是最佳例證,本來是ps3獨佔作品,跨不痛做了明智的跨平台選擇。然後索飯們就火大了。忠心索狗們發起了那次著名的杯葛連署,哀求跨不痛不要〔背叛〕他們,其中某一隻還直接問跨不痛:〔你在想什麼?跨不痛!〕,這個連署還在,已經有12345個簽名支持。

According to the petition, the PS3 fans "Feel very left out in [Capcom"s] decision to make Devil May Cry 4 a Multi-Platform title, and hereby agree to boycott your sale of Capcom affiliated games." Yes, somehow Sony fans felt "left out," as if they somehow weren"t getting the game as well. This seems to be a running issue with PS3 fanboys, that if a game goes multiplatform, they somehow act as if they"re not going to be able to play it, and many of them choose not to, demonstrating just how much they actually care about playing videogames. To them, this whole thing is a melodrama about loyalty and trust and having publishers bend to their every whim.

根據那次的連署,索飯認為跨不痛的跨平台決策讓他們感到〔被遺棄〕,所以決定從此拒買所有跨不痛的作品。是的,索狗們居然會覺得〔被遺棄〕,說得好像〔ps3上玩不到惡魔獵人4〕一樣。這似乎是索飯的通病:如果某個作品跨了,他們就表現得像是他們根本玩不到了一樣。事實上根本是他們自己因為遊戲跨了而〔自己選擇〕不玩的。這顯示了他們其實壓根不在乎這些遊戲,對他們來說這整件事根本只是演一出主題為〔忠信〕的鬧劇,逼廠商滿足他們的腦內幻想。

Similar issues happened when Square Enix sensationally revealed that Final Fantasy XIII was going multiplatform. In fact, there"s a petition still running for that too, though with significantly fewer signatures. When FF XIII was announced for Xbox 360, forums online went apeshit with Sony fanboys declaring Square Enix "traitors" and vowing never to play the game. Never mind being happy that a classic RPG series was potentially going to increase its fanbase, these so-called gamers were more concerned about having an exclusive to brag about online. It"s never about gaming with fanboys, it"s always about petty point-scoring.

同樣的事也發生在當SE宣布把FF13跨平台的時候。事實上,也有另一個正在進行中的連署呢,只是簽名少了很多...當FF13登陸xbox360的時候,網路上的討論區充斥著憤怒索狗的狗吠聲稱SE是叛徒,還發誓再也不玩SE的作品。這些索飯根本不會因為一款經典系列作有機會可以增加客層基數而開心,這些所謂的〔玩家〕在乎索飯根本不在乎遊戲本身,對他們來說這一切就像是在吹噓自己上過幾個馬子一樣。

This is true of all fanboys to a degree, not just Sony ones, but so far I"ve seen very few examples of 360 and Wii loyalists being quite so pathetic as to petition and boycott and whine and cry over a multiplatform game. I did a search and failed to find a petition about BioShock, Castle Crashers, Lost Planet and Dead Rising. Four previously exclusive games, all headed or heading to the PlayStation 3. If such petitions exist, they clearly didn"t gain much ground.

這道理對於所有的飯都適用,不只是索飯會可悲到甚至需要開連署來杯葛,一邊哀號一邊哭鬧抱怨遊戲要跨了,但目前我也只看過極少數類似的例子發生在xbox360和Wii的支持者身上。我上網查了一下,也沒發現當生化奇兵、城堡毀滅者、失落星球和死亡復甦這4個本來是獨佔的遊戲宣布跨ps3的時候有發生過什麼事,就算真的有人搞連署的話,也不可能得到什麼支持。

Simply put? Xbox 360 fanboys might be dumbasses, but they don"t throw little girly tantrums when they "lose" an exclusive. I"ve certainly seen 360 and Wii fans upset because a game ISN"T coming to their system, but I"m yet to see much evidence of them screaming because a game IS coming to their system and simply happens to be going to another one as well.

要我說得再簡單一點嗎?軟飯可能是蠢蛋,但他們不會因為〔失去〕某個獨佔而像小娘們一樣灑潑。我是有看過軟飯和任飯因為xbox360和Wii玩不到某些遊戲而不爽,但實在沒看過他們在明明玩得到某個遊戲的情況下還不甘願別人也玩得到這些遊戲。

In fact, the only evidence I can see of Xbox 360 users getting angry over a multiplatform game are those who felt burned by Tales of Vesperia. Even then, however, the circumstances are different. First of all, the petition came from Japan, where many gamers bought a 360 simply to play Tales, and then felt screwed over when it was announced for PS3, a system they possibly had before they bought a 360. I dare say that many of these people weren"t Microsoft fans in the slightest, and were simply angry that they"d wasted money. Secondly, the PS3 version of Vesperia is going to be far superior, which is a clear slap in the face. That"s not to say that the petition isn"t dumb (if you get screwed by Namco Bandai, that"s your own fault), but it fails to be quite as sad as a plea to keep Devil May Cry 4 PS3-exclusive.

事實上我只看過一次xbox360玩家因為跨平台而生氣或覺得受傷,就是TOV。但是即使是這樣,這跟前述的索飯行為狀況完全不一樣。首先,連署是日本發起的,而日本有很多買xbox360的人當初就是為了TOV買xbox360的。所以當TOV跨ps3的時候他們會覺得被耍了,因為他們搞不好在買xbox360之前就已經買了ps3。我敢說這些為了TOV買xbox360的人絕對不可能是微軟的支持者,而他們生氣只是因為覺得浪費了買xbox360的錢。其次,ps3版的TOV內容上遠比xbox360版的還要多,這簡直是賞了那些人為了TOV買xbox360的人一巴掌。我並不是在說這次的連署就不蠢(我不是指 若你被NB耍了 那是你自找的),只是這次的事件看起來不比惡魔獵人那次那麼悲哀。

The Sony fanboys are always the ones at the heart of controversy. Killzone 2 is another fine example. Do you ever remember a 360 game being completely overshadowed by fanboy hype and review rage? I certainly don"t. Killzone 2, however, was thoroughly colored by the furor that surrounded its reviews. Sony loyalists famously raged over one site"s 8/10 review score. Positive reviews were criticized just as much as negative ones by the Sony Defense Force, with some fans claiming they could "hear" the bias in Adam Sessler"s voice when he gave the game a good video review. Things got so bad that Sessler actually raged against the fans in an edition of Sessler"s Soapbox.

有爭論的地方肯定找得到索飯,KZ2是另一個例子。你有曾經看過哪個xbox360的遊戲,會像ps3遊戲那樣被熱血索狗們捧飛上天,然後連遊戲都還沒出就到處在網路上各個玩家評分區瘋狂評滿分的?我自己是從來沒看過啦。KZ2當初就是因為媒體評分不錯,從此就陷入了這種索飯式的狂熱。當初有個網站只給KZ2評分8/10,就被憤怒的索飯以他們一向出名的犬海戰術給淹了。甚至不只是負評,連好評KZ2的人都還會被索狗抨擊。索飯宣稱,他們可以聽得出替KZ2做出正面影評的Adam Sessler聲音當中具有偏見的意味,當時情況還慘到Sessler還在他的網頁跟索飯戰了起來。

It doesn"t matter whether or not the fanboys have played, or even like, the games in question. If the game"s exclusive to the PS3, you WILL give it a high score or you shall live to see the wrath of enraged Sony fans. The sad thing is, and I don"t think the PS3 loyalists realize this, their rage and anger and need to start fights effectively ruin the reputations of the games themselves. As explained, Killzone 2 was completely upstaged by the controversy surrounding it, controversy that developer Guerrilla had itself done nothing to earn. I dread to think how Killzone 2"s developers actually felt to see their game become associated with public displays of stupidity and subjected to merciless mockery within the gaming community simply because an insane rabble reduced all discussion of their game to sheer absurdity.

這跟索飯到底玩不玩,甚至喜不喜歡ps3的遊戲無關。反正只要是ps3的獨佔,要是你吃了熊心豹膽敢給它低分,憤怒的索飯絕對會以主之名讓你體驗天誅。可惜的是(我覺得索狗們自己應該沒辦法體會這一點)他們這種憤怒且積極討戰的慾望總是迅速摧毀了那些他們吹捧上天遊戲的名聲。如上所說,KZ2的真實風采完全被與它有關的爭議所掩蓋,而這爭議跟開發商 Guerrilla 一點關係都沒有。我真不敢想像當KZ2的開發者看到這款遊戲遭受到索飯如此公開展示的愚蠢以及遊戲業界內鋪天蓋地而來的無情嘲笑所害的時候會作何感想,而這一切全都是因為這群瘋狗在網路上到處把正常的討論串變成全然的屁話串的緣故。
其實〔playstation lifestyle〕並不是唯一一個會回應我文章的索飯網站
〔psx extreme〕和〔psu〕也是那些覺得有必要指控我〔偏袒〕或是質疑我不該質疑不可質疑的索尼的索飯向網站。到目前為止我還沒見過哪個軟飯網站也跟我來這套,軟飯看起來就不太可能會做這種事,不是嗎?

So, what is it about Sony fanboys that makes them more obnoxious? Perhaps it"s the way they were raised. Let"s face it, most fanboys, no matter their preference, are predominantly teenagers who have had mommy and daddy buy them a games console. If a Sony fanboy got his mother to buy him a $599 PS3, then he is clearly a rather rich teenager. You combine an adolescent with money and what do you get? One irritating little son of a bitch. Conversely, perhaps that kid was poor and spent all his money on a PS3 (which was, when it launched, the most expensive console on the market), and had no more money left to buy another machine, so he clung to his purchase like a limpet and became deranged as he tried to justify the cash he spent.

好吧,到底是什麼原因讓索飯變得這麼可惡?說不定他們的家教本來就這麼差?咱們打開天窗說亮話吧。大部份的飯,不論他們的喜好為何,大部分都是伸手跟媽咪要錢買主機的青少年。如果一個索狗跟它媽要錢買了一台美金$599的ps3,那他當然是個有錢人家的少年仔。將〔青少年〕和〔錢〕兩者綁在一起看,你會看到什麼?答:一個囂張的賤種。
相反的,說不定這小鬼很窮,是花了所有積蓄才買了台ps3(上市時是當時市場上最貴的遊戲機)所以沒錢買其他的遊戲主機,所以只好拚命以各種瘋狂行為來證實自己的錢沒有白花。

Maybe it"s the fact that Sony was once on top of the mountain in this industry, and the fall from grace has been swift and brutal. The worst thing about being on top is the fall to the bottom, and maybe the transition from PS2 dominance to PS3 heel-dragging has had a damaging effect on the fanboy psyche, leaving them vulnerable and insecure. Maybe fanboys are suffering from a severe case of paranoid delusion, brought about by denial that the PS3 is in third place when once Sony was leading the charge.

說不定是因為索尼曾經是這個產業的霸主,然而它摔得又快又重。當老大的壞處就是這樣:摔得時候摔得比誰都重。說不定就是因為這種從霸主變成癟三的失勢導致了索飯某些心理方面的創傷
讓他們變得既脆弱又不安。說不定他們罹患了某種嚴重的精神失常,導致他們不願接受索尼從老大的位子一躍而下吊了車尾的事實。

Or perhaps they just have tiny penises. Who knows?

又或許只是因為他們因為老二太小所以精神失常?誰知道?

Whatever the reason, it"s true. Sony fanboys are by far the worst of the gaming worst. Your PC obsessives are arrogant, your Xbox 360 obsessives are ignorant, and your Wii obsessives subscribe to some creepy cult of personality, but its the lunatics who champion Sony that truly rule the realm of fanboyism with an iron fist. They"re childish, selfish, petulant, and possess a bizarre victim complex where everything is always about how biased people are and every offhand comment, every joke, every observation must be taken personally. They seem to believe in a conspiracy theory they"ve concocted where reviewers and the gaming media have it out for Sony, pursuing a personal vendetta for no reason whatsoever. They have never once considered what a reviewer would actually get out of pursuing petty grudges against Sony, or why anybody actually cares that much. The only people who care about "bias" against Sony are the Sony fanboys themselves. It"s all in their head.

不管真正原因是什麼,真的,索飯是遊戲界里最糞的敗類。
PC控太跩,Xbox360控無知,Wii控人格詭異。但讓索尼真正穩踞〔飯迷〕領域之王者的就是那群索飯。幼稚、任性、近乎異常的被害妄想症,隨時覺得其他人才叫做偏袒,一個隨意的評論、一個笑話、一個看法,都當成針對他們個人的批評,還陰謀論地以為所有的遊戲評論和遊戲媒體都像要復仇般地找索尼釘孤只。他們從沒想過,為什麼只要有評論者稍稍抱怨一下索尼,就會得到無盡的天誅,也沒想過別人是基於什麼理由批評,如果不在乎還會批評嗎?
真正注意到世上所有對索尼的偏見的人,就是這群索飯,這都是他們腦內補完的結果。

Case in point: We at Destructoid have often been accused of "anti-Sony" behavior, but did you know we actually have quite a good relationship with the company? Even I know and get along with a few people at the publisher, and they have never once treated us badly for our editorial content. If we were as bad as the Sony fanboys said we were, would Sony deal with us? No, they wouldn"t. The thing is, Sony loyalists care more about this shit than Sony itself does, and that truly is ing pitiful. Their toadying and lickspittling isn"t even acknowledged by the God they revere. How utterly miserable their lives must be.

此處也有例子,本站(Destrucoid)總是被指控為〔反索〕。但你知道嗎,本站和索尼的關係可好的咧。雖然我認識幾個索尼的人也和他們有往來,但他們從來沒有因為我們的評論而對我們態度不好。如果我們就像如索飯指控的那樣糟糕,索尼會和我們保持這種往來嗎?絕對不會吧~
說穿了,索飯對索尼的偏執已經超過了索尼自己對自己的程度,這還真他媽的悲哀到極點了。他們對他們所崇拜的索尼大神所做出的一切逢迎拍馬,索尼自己還不敢領教。這些索飯的生活真是徹底的悲哀至極。

I"m not telling you anything you don"t already know, and if you"re reading this and are currently angry or offended by any of the statements, you"re only going to prove just how correct I am.

以上我說的可不是什麼新聞,如果你讀了這一篇文章之後覺得很生氣並且覺得被冒犯,你只會再次證明了我說的是對的。

最後,有一點必須說,不論是遊戲圈,還是其他圈,「一粉頂十黑」這種事用來當做攻擊當事人的借口,其實是很站不住腳的,而且你也找不到哪家沒有極端粉的
然而對於索尼,這個借口毫無問題(
為什麼?索尼GK可是貨真價實的被揪到台前的產物,微博那個五仁搞的事大家也見不少了,索尼的企業文化決定了,他必須替他的粉絲背鍋,因為他就是挑撥者


我也是真的服了索友善度了,我現在上網查電視買什麼好音響買什麼好10個回答起碼跳出7個索友善度來二話不說先來一句「索尼大法好」的屁話完事兒還有一二十個點贊的,還有兩個說「索尼大法好,索尼有X1晶元有4KHDR有動態背光買索尼吧」

後來我TM發現這群人其實壓根兒就不懂什麼X1晶元什麼動態背光他TM壓根兒就是拿著這些當個口頭上的幌子好讓不明真相的圍觀群眾覺得自己其實不是一個把索尼電子產品當成愛馬仕來裝逼的人而是一個脫離了低級趣味和性價比走在業界潮流前段的時尚極客


其實他就是個住著八人間宿舍每天起來穿著弔帶白色小背心刷完牙一屁股坐在沒疊的被子上打開ps4開始化身為竊取心靈怪盜的肥宅,一邊兒玩一邊兒還瞧不起自己玩擼啊擼和王者榮耀那兩個品味低下的室友和隔壁班那個因為dota2入坑steam每個星期買三份廉價乞丐版的窮屌同學,時不時地還到PS4吧發個帖子抱怨我那些傻吊室友又不理解我超凡脫俗高貴的品味嘲諷我玩的遊戲了我現在真箇是優越感和孤獨感並存的矛盾共同體啊啊啊啊啊啊啊~


醒醒,索尼電視都有15%用的BOE的了

醒醒,索尼又在搞大磚頭大額頭了

醒醒,索尼又在一切為了玩家了

於是索粉們便漲紅了臉:你知道央視的轉播車有幾種用法么!


我曾經嘗試欣賞過索軟的作品無果,於是只蹲任的各種資訊,(主機方面)幾乎不看別的遊戲資訊、看到了也是默默退出不評價的瀏覽模式,怎麼著就能看到各種對任不實或邏輯有問題的指控不說,還時不時躺槍被諷低幼啊沒骨頭啊?我懟回去還沒理了?然後給我扣個帽子說我任斯林?說我不該玩陣營?碰瓷碰的666啊。我對你4的興趣還沒對你不要的V大,這是我個人的愛好問題也沒有主動騷擾過別人,你他媽的來跟我碰瓷??別跟我說看不到軟飯是因為基數少,真是基數問題再少玩了那麼多年微博也該見個一兩次吧?何況人家背景體量也不小,我也是沒見過微軟或XB負責人公然挑事呢,微軟請水軍這關鍵詞百度一下都是微軟為什麼沒有水軍和兩個沒取證過並且似乎與XB無關的爆料以及一個沒有依據的猜測。所以對比鋪天蓋地的GK實錘,我只能說就算微軟不是好東西、有可能也干過壞事,也比那啥乾淨太多或者聰明太多了。沒有產生矛盾的群體關係當然和諧,我也不接受說我搞事的指控。

至於拿全平台勸我或攻擊我的省點力氣吧,又不是買不起,我雖然算不得有錢但是月入8k往上最高W5以上,沒房貸沒房租的,配電腦和買lo都沒手軟,真想要買個遊戲機是買不起的問題嗎?只是我也完完全全沒寬裕到能買一個毫無用處的東西的地步,能讓我刷資訊的時候眼睛乾淨點兒就心滿意足了。


作為一個長沙人,看到嗦粉兩個字,毫不猶豫的就點進來了。然後發現走錯路了。。。


因為當人自認為高高在上時 總是不聽勸的


那種選陣營的噴子,無論放到那些陣營都是噴子一個,和哪一家粉絲並沒有關係,或者說「依據噴子的偏好」概率性決定「各家粉」之間的關係。舉個例子,能提出這種引戰話題的人,也是這種和諧的破壞者,至於破壞的是哪幾家間的和諧,取決於提問者的偏好,這樣說是不是好懂多了。總之,和諧與不和諧主要受到玩家素質的影響,根本在於人,和遊戲品質和公司內核完全沒有關係。

時隔良久我竟然又傻逼到在知乎提及遊戲話題。看到我的玩家請珍重自己,討論遊戲去論壇,貼吧,QQ群,俱樂部,知乎給不了你簡簡單單的遊戲歡樂和社交樂趣,相反,你會被其他人拉入深淵以至於忘記自己為什麼玩遊戲。玩個遊戲而已,看知乎遊戲話題只是找不自在。

如果這個問題出現在我的戰隊群里,回復只可能是:喂喂喂,該去把遊戲通關了,你說什麼?什麼什麼什麼更和諧?和你有個p關係腦子有s吧!滾去打遊戲,上線,哥帶你飛。

這才是玩家,享受遊戲的人。讓我們一起可憐評論家吧。


我覺得與基數、企業文化有關吧。一是索尼玩家人數多,所以XX也多,人們就會有XX都是索尼那邊來的印象。

第二是索尼GK為代表的官方行為,官方都在帶節奏你說他們會吸引一批怎樣的消費者,類比「買華為就是愛國」的類似言論,水軍說得多了之後就有一大批沒有獨立思考能力的人潛移默化地接受了這樣的說法,也正是沒有獨立思考能力的人才會變成精神股東這種讓人難以理解的群體


我們索斯林信仰平井一夫,也就是我們的姨夫是我們唯一的真神。任何領域,只有印有「SONY」「hires」「Xperia」「Play station」「Xreality」「G lens」「bravia」等標識的設備才是最清。。。呸,串場了,才是最好的!!
只要不停地為姨夫充值信仰,我們死後就有72台PS4pro在天堂等著我們。你們這個不信的人是沒有這種待遇的,你們嗝屁以後都下地獄去玩Xbox吧!!
索尼乎阿克巴!!
趕快購入一台印有SONY標識的設備來加入我們吧!!


ps3吧的一群人滿嘴髒話還美其名曰客觀,真是讓人噁心。


1,貼吧事件的影響真的很惡劣,而且貌似還有ps中國的官方人員在幕後運作,本來本世代索尼已經優勢挺大,再做這些小動作只能招黑
2,機器賣得多,玩家基數大,即使每個平台出現人渣的概率相等,索系人渣數量也會多一些
2.1,因為很多人跟風站隊,以及索尼是這3家當中,在國內推廣最成功的(非玩家獲得資訊的門檻相對低),索系人渣的比例其實比另兩家高
3,索家遊戲,確實現在在獨佔數量上比較多,而且質量,題材豐富度都還行。。導致有些人產生莫名的優越感。。然而實際情況是大多數時候都在玩全平台遊戲ヾ(′A『)ノ?而且能做出優秀作品的廠商,也大多更願意全平台

本人拙見,就想到這幾點。索尼現在本身也很膨脹,別人都跨平台聯機,就ps死活不能跨平台。。這聯機政策,吃棗藥丸

還有ps這ui多少年了就不能改一下,真的看著難受。。

另外,只有極端索粉令人噁心么?提出這個問題的x粉,我看也不單純吧


從TGS核彈事件來看,不知道怎麼說。

其實主要是很多所謂的索飯吧,都是PSP開始才接觸主機遊戲,主機文化的了解不深入。

要是我說,這三個飯都有素質較低的,要是說最純凈的飯,還要說是世嘉飯,世嘉飯總體品位最高。


算是個人體驗吧···

這麼多年混跡遊戲論壇,感觸就是索粉很極端,易衝動,易怒,動不動就抄別人祖墳的那種。

而軟粉比較成熟,多數為理智,穩重的感覺。

任飯吧,多數可愛、天真無邪的感覺。


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