在spacex工作是一種怎麼樣的體驗？

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Spacex的員工本來就不多，加上由於ITAR的緣故，大概是不太好在知乎上找spacex的員工了，隨手在一個網站上找了一點。
大概是入職門檻比波音洛馬這些公司要低，待遇要低不少，有抱怨的，有講情懷的。（加班多，錢少，工資不夠情懷補——確定不是在黑天朝某些地方么）
標題：Why is pay to spacex so low?

So I had a job interview at spacex and when it came down to salary I asked for around $80k and they told me that was too high based on my experience so I just let them send me an offer and they only offered me 72k. I live on the east coast and make $70k now and based on CoL, Glassdoor, and gauging other engineers. If I took $72k at SpaceX that would be a huge after taxes pay cut for me considering housing and taxes are higher in California. Why the hell do people want to work there? I understand the grandeur of working at SpaceX but it"s like they"re paying at a not for profit rate. Does anyone have any insight?

Edit: I also forgot to mention that they don"t pay any over time and a typical work week is 50-60hrs and right now I am paid straight over time so that would be an even larger pay cut than what I"m making now.

Edit: Just incase anyone is wondering I declined the offer.

大概錢少，加班多，抱怨。

For those who are in the flyovers like myself: $72k in LA is &<$50k in Cleveland and that basically assumes you"re never planning to buy a house or rent with fewer than 3 people.

50-60 hours is the bare minimum... I have friends who work there who practically live at their desks...

Their business plan is to wear you completely out in under 2 years then replace you. Their business plan is unethical at best.

我朋友在那工作，也是苦逼，這收入就別想買房了。

I completely agree - try to mention this anywhere outside of this subreddit and you"ll be downvoted by starry-eyed Musk fans.

贊同，不過別被腦殘粉噴了。

People are in the cult of Musk because the like the outcomes of his projects, not the way he treats the people that bring the ideas in those companies to life.

I think it is pretty well known SpaceX / Tesla / etc take the "this is your life" approach to working there to the extreme. It hopefully is obvious to prospective candidates that you throw away personal happiness and reasonable employment negotiations because so many people look at Tesla / SpaceX, see that they actually are changing the world in ways that writing another wep app or maintaining some internal enterprise clusterfuck will never come close to doing.

Which I assume is why people work there - effectively, part of your employment compensation is being involved in world changing work, and you take the pay cut to compensate. And they aren"t at a loss for prospective hires, and you aren"t compelled to work there, so it is all within their rights to take advantage of that popularity.

拿的錢少怎麼樣，我們在做改變世界的工作。

Spacex engineer here. We work here for less pay and work more hours not necessarily because we worship Elon(some of us do), but because we dreamt of a world where space travel was Significantly more advanced than it currently is and at SpaceX we are actually working on changing that. In our personal careers and for the industry we accomplish more in a couple months than we would in a year at the other aerospace companies. I know that is truth because after 1.5 years (straight out of college) I was a controller for the first SLC-4E/F9-v1.1 flight and now I am working on the F9R project. Where else could I accomplish so much in so little. Yes I make significantly less money, but I am extremely happy where I am. I have a coworker who passed on a Google position that paid almost double, and he has Zero regrets.

It basically comes down to You. Do you want to make money and have a life outside of work which may or may not be good, or do you want to work for something that will make history and hopefully change humanity for the better. It"s an internal decision people rarely face and it"s a tough one. It"s personal benefit versus working for the greater good.

P.S. I AM drunk right now, it"s kings v. Hawks. Go Hawks!

錢少加班多都無所謂啊，我可是獵鷹9R項目的人，我們有夢想，還有馬一龍可以膜。

That"s part of the problem - SpaceX know that their name looks so good on a resumé that people will take jobs for below-average pay just to get the referral/experience.

其實拿平均工資以下的錢都是為了工作經驗啊。

Haha. 2-3 years at SpaceX may get you in the door at Aerojet Rocketdyne, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, etc. But if you think you"ll be any father along than your classmates who went straight there after graduating, you"re crazy.

It"s amazing how many people knock old space for being hidebound and bureaucratic, but don"t think that would factor in when they go there themselves.

These companies have civil service-like promotion ladders, and people pretty much never jump them. These are companies set up for replaceable engineers, and you don"t need some hypothetical wunderkind from SpaceX for that.

蛤蛤，大概在spacex混兩年你才有機會去波音洛克達因和洛馬，等等。

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Why is pay at SpaceX so low? : engineering